Circumnavigating the UK, er just Sheppey

[idpnd]

That would mean hundreds of uniformed peak capped little Hitlers sneaking around boatyards and marinas checking if boats or their owners had licences. They would, of course, need a fleet of 4x4's and RIBS with blue flashing lights to carry them around and a vast steel and glass building to house them.

They call them police where I come from

I'm against licensing really, they're just a nuisance, but perhaps the recommendation bit for nautical charts could be notched up a bit

 

[Kawasaki]

Can't fault his navigation. "keep the hard bit on the right and the wet bit on the left". Makes sense to me.
My passage plan to Cherbourg is "turn left at the end of the Solent by the big lighthouse and keep the hard bit behind. The next hard bit is France"

Simples

Have you been through the 'hlb' school of Navigation!!?

Peeps like the Guy in the Story
Well, what can yer say?

Yep
Although I Instruct peeps on RYA courses etc
I don't want to see 'Compulsory'

By the way folks
hlb has been all over the place
Without much RYA input

And so have lots of other peeps

But its there if peeps want it

'Legislation' and 'Compulsory'
No!

Anyway
I aint startin a debate
Bloody funny report though

 

[[2068]]

The story of this hapless fellow reminds me of a small boy and his brother who took their 12ft rowing boat from Keyhaven across to Yarmouth one day.

Big Smile!

 

[Mariner69]

[QUOTE

but perhaps the recommendation bit for nautical charts could be notched up a bit [/QUOTE]

SOLAS Ch V Safety of Navigation applies to "all ships on all voyages, except ships of war and ships solely navigating the Great Lakes..."

Regulation 20 Nautical Publications says "All ships shall carry adequate and up-to-date charts, sailing directions, lists of lights, notices to mariners,tide tables and all other nautical publications necessary for the intended voyage."

The MCA have decided that it does not apply to pleasure vessels of less than 150 grt, so if it got difficult with too many incidents it does not require much effort on the part of the authorities to impose the rules.

 

[Searush]

Oiy - Give over, Mariner69, none of my charts are up to date - except for the freebie CHT chartlet for the Bar Bouys that move three times a year (or more!).

Rocks don't move, but bouys & lights can go out, or off station, so even brand new, fully corrected charts can't be completely relied on. Sand banks move - but are seldom surveyed (most where I sail haven't been surveyed in 100 years - when lead lines & sextants were used). Just remember what can change & what can't and then you can interpret what you see against what is recorded.

I see no benefit in enforcing leisure yotties to buy a new set of charts every few years. The uninitiated newbie probably won't be able to read them anyway. It's all pointless regulation & just a complete waste of time. It won't "save any lives" or reduce the workload on teh RNLI either.

 

[mikefleetwood]

All ships shall carry adequate and up-to-date charts, sailing directions, lists of lights, notices to mariners,tide tables and all other nautical publications necessary for the intended voyage."

I suppose it depends on what you consider "necessary for your intended voyage"?

A familiar trip in good conditions, you might consider you don't need anything

 

[poltergeist]

Ill tell you what, guys. The responses on this story here are a lot more relaxed than on Scuttlebutt (here).

TBH, the replies on Scuttlebutt were a lot more forgiving than I was expecting - almost came as a bit of a shock!

 

[carlton]

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If you ever come across someone like this, they are typically MoBos (sorry, but rags & sticks apparently look too complicated to them)...

Well, I've only ever come across one 'like this' - he was trying to get to the U.S. to visit his daughter.

He claimed to be an experienced navigator, but was rescued by the RNLI four times in the North Sea. He was a yottie, BTW...

 

[Searush]

Well, I've only ever come across one 'like this' - he was trying to get to the U.S. to visit his daughter.

He claimed to be an experienced navigator, but was rescued by the RNLI four times in the North Sea. He was a yottie, BTW...

NORTH SEA? Going to US? Was that Upper Sweden then?

Funny that, I have often met people in trailerable speed boats, overloaded with kids & beer, sun burnt bright red & no idea that tides go up & down as well as in & out, or that the sand doesn't just keep gently sloping away from the land at a steady angle.

They seldom have an anchor, or aux engine/ spare fuel, sometimes a few lifejackets but they would be at risk on a small lake, never mind the North Wales coast with its big tides, exposed beaches and very changeable weather. They have Scouse, Brummie & Manchester accents & have usually picked up a "bargain" in the local paper, off a "mate" or from e-bay. Perhaps where you sail is too far for them to travel for a day out.

 

[carlton]

NORTH SEA? Going to US?

Yep - chap in his late fifties who set off from the Humber intending to sail directly to Florida - in a 21' yacht...

 

[poltergeist]

Yep - chap in his late fifties who set off from the Humber intending to sail directly to Florida - in a 21' yacht...

Thats nothing - Del Boy in an episode of "Only Fools & Horses" nearly did it on a jet ski going in the opposite direction - from Miami - abeit unintentionally

 

[oldgit]

"Sheppey nous" ...mainly gleaned from running aground very frequently over many years.

"You may remember that I mentioned that your new fangled Sat Nav was blimming miles out and we should have been at least 3ft to the left as we came by the North and South Ferry Bouys,the sediment stirred up should have been a darker brown.
Ps.you were of course going far to fast.
The Swale.