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I do know that the Chinese are capable of producing some good equipment but why oh why do they not spend that H'apenth of tar to finish it off properly.
It seems this only happens where the item is being supplied to European supplier who is demanding a high standard of finish-for example anchor windlasses.
Although the fetleling of the casting inside my new Vetus Hydraulic steering pump left alot to be desired.
I have a bench pillar drill which works really well apart from the emergency cut out switch which should cut off the power when you open the casing to change the pulley belt-a push switch held down by a bent tab of metal cut out of the casing.
Suffice to say it lasted a few weeks before I had to bypass the switch.
More recently I have just bought an electric motor shaft extender 5/16 inch or 8mm.
The extension rod a perfect good quality 7.95 mm diameter rod. The tube to secure it an aprox.8.5 mm ID so guess what the shaft runs totally out of true!
Sometimes I get the distinct impression that items are manufactured by someone who hasnt a clue what the product is for!
 
I considered buying a Chinese outboard, think I spent 30seconds on that consideration then bought a Mercury, ;)

you get what you pay for and Chinese 'bargains' are most of the time false economy.
 
ukmctc said:
quality of a product is set by the company not the subcontractor, subcontractors make products to the main contractors design and spec. don't blame the little guy.
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Agree entirely, if a European sells you Chinese **** it is because he bought Chinese ****. Either he is poor at running his business or ripping you off.
 
skipper681 said:
I considered buying a Chinese outboard, think I spent 30seconds on that consideration then bought a Mercury, ;)

you get what you pay for and Chinese 'bargains' are most of the time false economy.
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Mercury Manufacturing Locations
Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
Juarez, Mexico
Komagane, Japan (TMC joint venture)
Petit-Rechain, Belgium
St. Cloud, Florida, USA
Suzhou, China
 
Buck Turgidson said:
Mercury Manufacturing Locations
Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
Juarez, Mexico
Komagane, Japan (TMC joint venture)
Petit-Rechain, Belgium
St. Cloud, Florida, USA
Suzhou, China
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I knew someone would have to say that, I know the Suzhou factory,and all others listed has guidelines and quality control :rolleyes:

Anything useful to the thread to add?
 
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Having recently left a large Chinese telecoms company, who sell quality products, you can have a electronics subcontractor with two lines alongside each other and one is producing poor quality products whilst the other is producing high quality goods.

Difference is that in our case we paid for the higher quality and also had our own Chinese guys in the factory watching the line to ensure the goods were manufactured to our standards. Plus our customer used to arrive unannounced to perform spot checks so we were all kept on our toes.

Its very simple you get what you are willing to pay for in terms of extra costs to the subcontractor and your own internal costs to support an onsite quality inspector, its nothing to do with where the products is manufactured the same happens in factories throughout the world.

I always laugh when a retailer tries to tell me that because an item is made in the same factory as a highly respected product it must therefore be good.
 
skipper681 said:
I knew someone would have to say that, I know the Suzhou factory,and all others listed has guidelines and quality control :rolleyes:

Anything useful to the thread to add?
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Yes, I'll continue your sub thread. I bought a Mariner (Mercury) OB because I thought it would be better than a Chinese one. After a few hours of use the tilt lock failed - apparently because the Chinese factory had poor Q.C.
 
Moxon said:
Yes, I'll continue your sub thread. I bought a Mariner (Mercury) OB because I thought it would be better than a Chinese one. After a few hours of use the tilt lock failed - apparently because the Chinese factory had poor Q.C.
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Sorry to hear about that, I trust it was promptly repaired and all is good now.

I don't work for the company, I just bought one of their outboards, my tilt locks fine though.

Feel free to buy a Chinese outboard with a working tilt lock and please accept my apologies for hurting your feelings.

:confused:

Someone more in touch will be along soon to correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Mariner was closer to Yamaha than Mercury?

Edit to add, have you spelled your username wrong? :D
 
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skipper681 said:
Sorry to hear about that, I trust it was promptly repaired and all is good now.

I don't work for the company, I just bought one of their outboards, my tilt locks fine though.

Feel free to buy a Chinese outboard with a working tilt lock and please accept my apologies for hurting your feelings.

:confused:

Edit to add, have you spelled your username wrong? :D
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davidwf said:
Having recently left a large Chinese telecoms company, who sell quality products, you can have a electronics subcontractor with two lines alongside each other and one is producing poor quality products whilst the other is producing high quality goods. .....
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My employer buys Chinese land drilling rigs. It's exactly as you describe, two production lines, one for home market, one for non home market. Both rigs are nearly identical but ours are built to certain recognised standards e.g. a structural weld will be 8" long and 6mm wide on the home market, ours will be 12" x 10mm. We supply our own QAQC because the tea lady is the QAQC officer in the factory, her job is to stamp paper work.

The factories are incredibly flexible though, talk to the right man, a phone call is made and it changes or is fixed; very easy, no problem.
 
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Originally Posted by Zagato
Pay someone £1 to do a job and you will get £1 worth of quality... If the companies that sub the work cared more for quality than profit then...

ukmctc said:
quality of a product is set by the company not the subcontractor, subcontractors make products to the main contractors design and spec. don't blame the little guy.
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That's what I meant "If the companies that sub the work" on! Don't blame the Chinese/little guy in most cases, he is only being paid £1, if the company at the top gave him £5 he would be able to do a better job.

One example I am well aware of is Britpart (a lot made in India but same issues) They are aware of the quality problem and are trying to turn it around. Not sure if they are paying more to the workers and those near the bottom of the line however!
 
One of my biggest concerns with Chinese manufacture is their electrical cables. I had a charger for my phone from '3'. Chinese cable, lasted less than 6 months and '3' weren't interested! Bought an induction hob, cable didn't last 2 minutes. The problem is that this stuff is dangerous.

What about tin openers? I've gone back to using a knife, until I can find an opener that doesn't fall to bits. The squeeze type with the turn handle has a rivet that the thing pivots on, it breaks. The type that you knock in and pivot up and down, the flipping blade broke on one and the entire end fell off another.

Why not employ random checks on goods coming into the country from iffy countries?

I wonder how reliable their nuclear weapons are? I'll bet they work. Mind you, they only have to work once......
 
It's the quality control responsibility of the firm subcontracting. You can't transfer responsibility. If you subcontract, you check the quality of the product supplied.

I used to adverstise guitars by a well known UK brand and they subbed out work to korea, china and malaysia. every guitar they imported was checked over and set up before it left them.

there were differences in the quality depending on the price obviously. But they made sure that the consumer got the best value for the price they paid.

obviously with mass produced items its a sampling technique. but you can't escape responsbility for quality control if you are putting your name on it.
 
My ITT transistor radio is 40 yrs old and made in Hong Kong,totally bulletproof,top quality sound and it's been through the wars. Never thought it would come to this,but: 'they don't make em like they used to can't beat the old HK gear blah blah'
 
skipper681 said:
Sorry to hear about that, I trust it was promptly repaired and all is good now.

I don't work for the company, I just bought one of their outboards, my tilt locks fine though.

Feel free to buy a Chinese outboard with a working tilt lock and please accept my apologies for hurting your feelings.

:confused:

Someone more in touch will be along soon to correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Mariner was closer to Yamaha than Mercury?

Edit to add, have you spelled your username wrong? :D
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No, your edit was to add your thought about Yamaha being related to Mariner. Which it isn't.
 
Bought a Hooker brand muffler for my car, fine American company. Made in China, the quality is superb. I was stunned by the quality of the welds and took photos before installing. Have been sailing with my new cruising laminated furling headsail made by the China sail factory, they build sails for a lot of the name companies. Its brilliant!
 
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