Chinese Diesel heater "Afterburner"

[Nauti Fox]

Well, it did take a month to get here but... well worth the wait.
I've only just fitted it and haven't connected it to WiFi yet, just Bluetooth and controlling it using a phone.
The only alteration I've made so far is to run it on the "linear" setting which controls it to maintain a set temperature by adjusting the fan and pump speeds, much like a Webasto/Eberspacher, so it no longer just runs at full speed or idle.
It also has a very good timer system.
All in all, very pleased so far.

 

[Gwylan]

Would it be any good for a cold garage? Blue tooth sounds a bit sophisticated. Or am I being wound up?

 

[Nauti Fox]

The Afterburner is a replacement controller for certain types of Chinese diesel heaters, if you search Chinese diesel heaters you will find many discussions on these forums.
Personally, I've been using them for a few years now with no problems.

 

[Gwylan]

My, the wonders of Google and YouTube.
I have been asleep at the back missing all this progress.

 

[Gwylan]

Have to put a capital expense request into the CiC. Imagine a warm car in the morning dear.....

 

[peteK]

I am still running my Chinese heater using supplied blue controller and find the constant hertz setting better than running on thermostat mode.

 

[CLB]

Don’t think you will get an afterburner in the UK now. The seller has decided to stop supply to UK due to VAT implications after Brexit. The OP was lucky. Must have been one of the last.

 

[Nauti Fox]

Have to put a capital expense request into the CiC. Imagine a warm car in the morning dear.....

Have a look at David Mcluckie's videos

 

[Nauti Fox]

Don’t think you will get an afterburner in the UK now. The seller has decided to stop supply to UK due to VAT implications after Brexit. The OP was lucky. Must have been one of the last.

That's a shame, I ordered it early December but it didn't clear UK customs until yesterday.

 

[Elessar]

Don’t think you will get an afterburner in the UK now. The seller has decided to stop supply to UK due to VAT implications after Brexit. The OP was lucky. Must have been one of the last.

The seller was Australian.
Sounds like nonsense to me.

 

[prv]

The seller was Australian.
Sounds like nonsense to me.

If it's under £135 then the Australian seller now has to register with HMRC and collect and pay VAT. Lots of overseas suppliers are deciding they can't be bothered with that and opting not to sell to the UK instead. I've been bitten by it with parts for something made by a small company in the US; I simply can't obtain them now since there is no other source.

It's not directly due to Brexit, true. I suspect HMRC decided to sneak it in at the same time so people would lump all import and export problems together and not blame them.

Pete

 

[CLB]

The seller was Australian.
Sounds like nonsense to me.

If it's under £135 then the Australian seller now has to register with HMRC and collect and pay VAT. Lots of overseas suppliers are deciding they can't be bothered with that and opting not to sell to the UK instead. I've been bitten by it with parts for something made by a small company in the US; I simply can't obtain them now since there is no other source.

It's not directly due to Brexit, true. I suspect HMRC decided to sneak it in at the same time so people would lump all import and export problems together and not blame them.

Pete

Thank you Pete. You saved me having to explain. Some people on here are quick to judge without taking any effort to research for themselves.

from the horses mouth:

 

[Elessar]

Well that’s crazy. Thanks for the info.

 

[Daverw]

I understood that it was a new ruling being implemented across EU and was due to start by all states Jan 1 but the EU 27 decided to delay it until July due to covid.

New e-commerce EU VAT rules as of July 2021

 

[Nauti Fox]

Terrible shame, he's a good guy to deal with as well.

 

[dankilb]

Sounds like it’s time to make use of those friends and relatives down under!

(Or maybe anywhere/everywhere else in the world, at this rate!)

 

[Elessar]

So if he sells 2 at a time the stupid rules don’t apply?

 

[Nauti Fox]

Sorry, should have included a link to his site for those that haven't heard of it... Home

Maybe someone on this forum could work out a way?

 

[Elessar]

So if he sells 2 at a time the stupid rules don’t apply?

my new boat needs 2 heaters.

I’ve asked him if he’ll sell me 2 as it will be over the threshold. If he will I’m sure he’ll sell 3 or whatever. Anyone else want one?

 

[prv]

I understood that it was a new ruling being implemented across EU and was due to start by all states Jan 1 but the EU 27 decided to delay it until July due to covid.

Yes - essentially it's a reaction to the "Chinese eBay" phenomenon.

A couple of differences I can see with the EU scheme from that summary, though -

1) It appears to be optional - "for consignments of €150 euros or below, (1) they will only be required to charge VAT at the time of the sale by using the Import One-Stop-Shop (i.e. no VAT will be due on import), or (2) they could elect to have the import VAT collected from the final customer by the Customs declarant (postal couriers);"

2) Where the sale is via a "marketplace" (clearly they mean Amazon or eBay), the marketplace is liable for the import VAT. Which makes a lot of sense since they have the scale to absorb the extra admin.

Also, unrelated to Chinese / US import, it seems to simplify some of the intra-EU VAT stuff especially for small businesses. That's what "reducing red tape" actually looks like.

Pete