Cloona
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What is going on ?- Is it true that the local water comapny is dumping tons and tons of effluent into the harbour and getting away with it ?
Chichester Harbour - sewage, pollution and Southern Water
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Sans Bateau
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Re: Chichester Harbour
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fireball
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Re: Chichester Harbour
Yup - I believe from Dell Quay...
from Conservancy.co.uk:
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS NO. 13 OF 2007, 05/04/2007
End Date: 31/12/2007
WATER QUALITY
Mariners are advised that the following advice has been issued by the Environmental Health Department at Chichester District Council updating the advice published in Local Notice to Mariners No. 12 of 2007 dated 2 April 2007:
“Further to reports of raw sewage entering Chichester Harbour the Environment Agency have taken water samples and the results demonstrate that, other than at the outfall position, the water quality at Dell Quay and in Chichester Harbour is acceptable given the nature of the water.
In addition a visual assessment of the water would suggest that the problem seen over the last few weeks has decreased.
In consultation with the Environment Agency and acting upon the formal sample results, the District Council is advising all water users that the precautionary statement issued on Monday is no longer applicable and that there is now no longer any reason to restrict exposure to the harbour waters in this area.”
Lt Col JQ Davis OBE
Manager and Harbour Master 5 April 2007
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS NO. 12 OF 2007, 02/04/2007
End Date: 31/12/2007
WATER QUALITY
Mariners are advised that the following advice has been issued by the Environmental Health Department at Chichester District Council concerning discharges from the sewage works north of Dell Quay in the Fishbourne Channel:
“The Sewage works at Appledram Lane is currently surcharging due to an excessive amount of ground water entering the works. In line with industry standards the excess water that cannot be fully treated goes through a settlement stage and is screened before being piped into the harbour. Therefore diluted raw sewage is present in the harbour water.
At this stage the District Council is awaiting formal results from the Environment Agency as to the actual levels of contamination present before being able to give any firm direction to users of the harbour as to the safety of the water. In the meantime the Council is advising that all water users adopt a precautionary stance with regard to exposure and to that end;
1. Do not immerse yourself unnecessarily – ie capsize drills
2. Cover all cuts and grazes with waterproof dressings before going onto the water.
3. Do not eat or drink whilst on the water.
4. Ensure that you thoroughly wash hands and face when clear of the water and before eating or drinking.”
Lt Col JQ Davis OBE
Manager and Harbour Master 2 April 2007
Yup - I believe from Dell Quay...
from Conservancy.co.uk:
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS NO. 13 OF 2007, 05/04/2007
End Date: 31/12/2007
WATER QUALITY
Mariners are advised that the following advice has been issued by the Environmental Health Department at Chichester District Council updating the advice published in Local Notice to Mariners No. 12 of 2007 dated 2 April 2007:
“Further to reports of raw sewage entering Chichester Harbour the Environment Agency have taken water samples and the results demonstrate that, other than at the outfall position, the water quality at Dell Quay and in Chichester Harbour is acceptable given the nature of the water.
In addition a visual assessment of the water would suggest that the problem seen over the last few weeks has decreased.
In consultation with the Environment Agency and acting upon the formal sample results, the District Council is advising all water users that the precautionary statement issued on Monday is no longer applicable and that there is now no longer any reason to restrict exposure to the harbour waters in this area.”
Lt Col JQ Davis OBE
Manager and Harbour Master 5 April 2007
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS NO. 12 OF 2007, 02/04/2007
End Date: 31/12/2007
WATER QUALITY
Mariners are advised that the following advice has been issued by the Environmental Health Department at Chichester District Council concerning discharges from the sewage works north of Dell Quay in the Fishbourne Channel:
“The Sewage works at Appledram Lane is currently surcharging due to an excessive amount of ground water entering the works. In line with industry standards the excess water that cannot be fully treated goes through a settlement stage and is screened before being piped into the harbour. Therefore diluted raw sewage is present in the harbour water.
At this stage the District Council is awaiting formal results from the Environment Agency as to the actual levels of contamination present before being able to give any firm direction to users of the harbour as to the safety of the water. In the meantime the Council is advising that all water users adopt a precautionary stance with regard to exposure and to that end;
1. Do not immerse yourself unnecessarily – ie capsize drills
2. Cover all cuts and grazes with waterproof dressings before going onto the water.
3. Do not eat or drink whilst on the water.
4. Ensure that you thoroughly wash hands and face when clear of the water and before eating or drinking.”
Lt Col JQ Davis OBE
Manager and Harbour Master 2 April 2007
Judders
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Re: Chichester Harbour
I believe that it is only occuring after periods of heavy rain, so not often in recent times.
My brother & I did have a lovely sail through some effluent a couple of months ago.
I believe that it is only occuring after periods of heavy rain, so not often in recent times.
My brother & I did have a lovely sail through some effluent a couple of months ago.
Cloona
Well-Known Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
JQD/O941
20 April 2007
OPEN LETTER
Sewage Discharge into Chichester Harbour
Thank you for your enquiry about sewage discharge into Chichester Harbour from the
Apuldram and other Waste Water Treatment Works. Chichester Harbour is the
largest and one of the busiest leisure harbours in the country. It is home to 16 sailing
clubs, some of which lie close (500 metres) to sewage outfall pipes and there are a
number of education centres that are also near the outfalls.
The Chichester Harbour Conservancy are concerned and disappointed that there is an
ongoing requirement to discharge raw sewage that has only received primary (passed
through 6mm screen) treatment into the Harbour during storm water events and when
ground water levels are high. These discharges can last for a number of weeks at a
time and can pose a health risk to people of all ages who come into close contact with
the water and sediment. The discharge of nitrates and phosphates into the harbour
also damages the internationally important nature conservation interests of the
harbour.
Whilst the Conservancy welcomes the measures that are currently being implemented
to improve waste water treatment at Apuldram and the other sites, it must be noted
that they will not stop untreated discharges during storm water and high ground water
conditions. We are also concerned that the overall situation will get worse if the
current proposals, in the Local Development Framework, to site up to 750 houses one
kilometre away, South West of Stockbridge, are implemented.
In the long term, the Conservancy would wish to see all sewage discharges into the
harbour stopped and in the medium term, sewage and storm water drains should be
separated.
In the short term, we have asked that the following actions be taken:
- Southern Water should notify the Environment Agency of storm discharge
operations and the Agency should then undertake regular monitoring of
sewage levels in the harbour;
- Should the tests exceed Manadatory Bathing Water standards in the adjacent
sailing waters, the Agency to notify Environmental Health at Chichester
District Council;
- Environmental Health to notify key user groups (eg Chichester Harbour
Conservancy)
Yours sincerely
John Q Davis
Manager & Harbour Master
JQD/O941
20 April 2007
OPEN LETTER
Sewage Discharge into Chichester Harbour
Thank you for your enquiry about sewage discharge into Chichester Harbour from the
Apuldram and other Waste Water Treatment Works. Chichester Harbour is the
largest and one of the busiest leisure harbours in the country. It is home to 16 sailing
clubs, some of which lie close (500 metres) to sewage outfall pipes and there are a
number of education centres that are also near the outfalls.
The Chichester Harbour Conservancy are concerned and disappointed that there is an
ongoing requirement to discharge raw sewage that has only received primary (passed
through 6mm screen) treatment into the Harbour during storm water events and when
ground water levels are high. These discharges can last for a number of weeks at a
time and can pose a health risk to people of all ages who come into close contact with
the water and sediment. The discharge of nitrates and phosphates into the harbour
also damages the internationally important nature conservation interests of the
harbour.
Whilst the Conservancy welcomes the measures that are currently being implemented
to improve waste water treatment at Apuldram and the other sites, it must be noted
that they will not stop untreated discharges during storm water and high ground water
conditions. We are also concerned that the overall situation will get worse if the
current proposals, in the Local Development Framework, to site up to 750 houses one
kilometre away, South West of Stockbridge, are implemented.
In the long term, the Conservancy would wish to see all sewage discharges into the
harbour stopped and in the medium term, sewage and storm water drains should be
separated.
In the short term, we have asked that the following actions be taken:
- Southern Water should notify the Environment Agency of storm discharge
operations and the Agency should then undertake regular monitoring of
sewage levels in the harbour;
- Should the tests exceed Manadatory Bathing Water standards in the adjacent
sailing waters, the Agency to notify Environmental Health at Chichester
District Council;
- Environmental Health to notify key user groups (eg Chichester Harbour
Conservancy)
Yours sincerely
John Q Davis
Manager & Harbour Master
DJE
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Re: Chichester Harbour
A bit of muck in Chichester Harbour never did these two any harm:
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A bit of muck in Chichester Harbour never did these two any harm:
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GazzaUK
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Re: Chichester Harbour
"Therefore diluted raw sewage is present in the harbour water."
The dirty bleeders!
"Therefore diluted raw sewage is present in the harbour water."
The dirty bleeders!
Cloona
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Re: Chichester Harbour
so is it safe for our kids to swim in ??
so is it safe for our kids to swim in ??
Judders
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Re: Chichester Harbour
Hands up who has a seatoilet?
Hands up who has a seatoilet?
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I havn't noticed any changes in years - still big lengths of creamy froth. Lots of algae growth. Hull gets caked in scum and needs washing every week. Best time to watch the sewage is at night - Mmmmm !
Saying that there's still plenty of marine life, fish etc. and the abundance of swans don't seem to mind, neither do the dinghy sailors.
I'm guessing its clean sewage !
Saying that there's still plenty of marine life, fish etc. and the abundance of swans don't seem to mind, neither do the dinghy sailors.
I'm guessing its clean sewage !
Cloona
Well-Known Member
"These discharges can last for a number of weeks at a
time and can pose a health risk to people of all ages who come into close contact with the water and sediment. The discharge of nitrates and phosphates into the harbour
also damages the internationally important nature conservation interests of the harbour."
seems to me Southern Water are dumping tons and tons of shite on us who are mugs enough to take it -
time and can pose a health risk to people of all ages who come into close contact with the water and sediment. The discharge of nitrates and phosphates into the harbour
also damages the internationally important nature conservation interests of the harbour."
seems to me Southern Water are dumping tons and tons of shite on us who are mugs enough to take it -
capt_courageous
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Re: Chichester Harbour
No, untreated sewage is never safe for people to swim in. If you want to get seriously ill eat some shellfish from that area. Luckily the sea is good at cleaning up after us which is why they get away with treating it with such contempt.
No, untreated sewage is never safe for people to swim in. If you want to get seriously ill eat some shellfish from that area. Luckily the sea is good at cleaning up after us which is why they get away with treating it with such contempt.
Cloona
Well-Known Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
can Southern Water be sued ?
can Southern Water be sued ?
capt_courageous
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Re: Chichester Harbour
I doubt it very much. At least things are improving in the Solent area if slowly. Not so long ago Portsmouth sewage was dumped straight into the sea at Eastney but now there is a very long outfall. The dumping was done at high water so the residents of Southsea got their own back. Similar story for the sewage from the Island which now departs from Appley. What Southampton etc. do I do not care to think about. There used to be regular bans on selling shellfish from the Solent, especially from the Calshot area.
I doubt it very much. At least things are improving in the Solent area if slowly. Not so long ago Portsmouth sewage was dumped straight into the sea at Eastney but now there is a very long outfall. The dumping was done at high water so the residents of Southsea got their own back. Similar story for the sewage from the Island which now departs from Appley. What Southampton etc. do I do not care to think about. There used to be regular bans on selling shellfish from the Solent, especially from the Calshot area.
DJE
Well-Known Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
The last untreated outfalls in to Southampton Water were intercepted in about 1990 by the Hamble Peninsula sewage disposal scheme. It is now pumped under the Hamble for treatment at Peel Common near Lee on Solent. Before that there were about four untreated outfalls between Netley and Hamble including one in to the Hamble river.
The last untreated outfalls in to Southampton Water were intercepted in about 1990 by the Hamble Peninsula sewage disposal scheme. It is now pumped under the Hamble for treatment at Peel Common near Lee on Solent. Before that there were about four untreated outfalls between Netley and Hamble including one in to the Hamble river.
VicS
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Re: Chichester Harbour
[ QUOTE ]
If you want to get seriously ill eat some shellfish from that area.
[/ QUOTE ] From the "Chichester harbour, A reference guide":
"The Dean of Winchester died in 1902 after eating an Emsworth oyster, effectively ending the sale of local oysters"
[ QUOTE ]
If you want to get seriously ill eat some shellfish from that area.
[/ QUOTE ] From the "Chichester harbour, A reference guide":
"The Dean of Winchester died in 1902 after eating an Emsworth oyster, effectively ending the sale of local oysters"
capt_courageous
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Re: Chichester Harbour
That's what I call serious.
That's what I call serious.
Cloona
Well-Known Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
oh well - GBP 60 million post tax profits for Southern water
and users of Chichester harbour are literally choking on shite -
might just revisit this -
oh well - GBP 60 million post tax profits for Southern water
and users of Chichester harbour are literally choking on shite -
might just revisit this -
Puffin_Billy
Active Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
Chichester is "lucky" enough to have Southern Water in charge of it's sewage.
I heard from a Surfers-Against-Sewage representative once that they are one of the worst water companies in the country.
My subsequent experience in 2000 when our house was flooded and we had raw sewage flowing into our house, was that they are an extremely arrogant, ineffective and shoulder sloping company who care nothing about the environment around us.
I bet there's a fair proportion of "fat cats" on fat cat salaries in that organisation as well... they should be too embarrassed to pick up their pay packets!
Chichester is "lucky" enough to have Southern Water in charge of it's sewage.
I heard from a Surfers-Against-Sewage representative once that they are one of the worst water companies in the country.
My subsequent experience in 2000 when our house was flooded and we had raw sewage flowing into our house, was that they are an extremely arrogant, ineffective and shoulder sloping company who care nothing about the environment around us.
I bet there's a fair proportion of "fat cats" on fat cat salaries in that organisation as well... they should be too embarrassed to pick up their pay packets!
choppy
Well-Known Member
Re: Chichester Harbour
Well I must have drunk at least a pint or 2 (of brine
) windsurfing just inside the entrance last week.
Well I must have drunk at least a pint or 2 (of brine
) windsurfing just inside the entrance last week.
