Cherry satin varnish suppliers

[AllanG]

Can anyone suggest suppliers of cherry satin varnish or woodstain suitable for external use, as I'm having trouble finding anyone who does a cherry finish, even though I'm sure cherry finish is still popular on new build boats.

Many thanks!

 

[prv]

Is cherry varnish anything like tartan paint?

Epifanes varnish worked well for me on various bits of solid cherry and some veneered ply. Either 7 coats of the traditional varnish for bright, or five of traditional and two of "rubbed effect" for a finish that could be described as satin. That was all interior work, but I used to use the traditional varnish on the spruce masts and spars of our previous boat, so it's perfectly fine outside.

Pete

 

[Poignard]

Epifanes Rapidcoat gives a rich dark colour when used on my boat's mahogany. It gives a satin finish and seems very durable.

You could buy a tin and try it. If it won't do, you could sell what's left to me!

 

[AllanG]

Thanks for the advice so far, but searching online I have come across Liberon High Protection Woodstain Cherry, which may be what I'm looking for?

Has anyone got any experience of using this woodstain?

 

[Nick_H]

Can anyone suggest suppliers of cherry satin varnish or woodstain suitable for external use, as I'm having trouble finding anyone who does a cherry finish, even though I'm sure cherry finish is still popular on new build boats.

Many thanks!

Cherry has only ever been popular on the interiors of boats AFAIK, which of course is cherry wood veneer with clear varnish. If you want to match non-cherry exterior wood to this, then the stain you need depends largely on which base wood you're staining. Having tried to match a stain to an existing finish many times, I don't think I've ever ended up with a stain which is actually colour labelled as the type of wood I'm trying to match it to.

The only way is trial and error with a selection of different stains, and fortunately most manufacturers make trial pots for that purpose.

 

[prv]

Having tried to match a stain to an existing finish many times, I don't think I've ever ended up with a stain which is actually colour labelled as the type of wood I'm trying to match it to.

One of my books on boat joinery has a comment along the lines of "you can try staining one wood to look like another, but the result always looks like one wood stained to look like another"

Pete

 

[itchenseadog]

One of my books on boat joinery has a comment along the lines of "you can try staining one wood to look like another, but the result always looks like one wood stained to look like another"

Pete

I second that Pete. The problem wirh staining exterior wood is that when it gets affected with water staining, you often have to scrape back to bare wood and then patch prime to bring back the finish, if it is stained you will have trouble colour matching it up with the original.

 

[Tranona]

One of my books on boat joinery has a comment along the lines of "you can try staining one wood to look like another, but the result always looks like one wood stained to look like another"

Pete

Can be successful in terms of getting new bits to fit well visually with existing. I am adding bits to the inside of my new boat and the important things like mouldings to make bookshelves I bought (at great expense!) extra moulding lengths from the factory. But other things such as frames for pictures I am using pine ready made frames with a section that is close to other trim on the boat, stained with Colron and loads of teak oil to give a satin finish. Because the frames are not directly against other trim they look fine.

 

[prv]

Can be successful in terms of getting new bits to fit well visually with existing.

Yeah, the smiley was meant to show I didn't take it totally seriously. I just liked the comment.

That said, for new joinery in Ariam I bought solid cherry and cherry-veneered ply to go with the existing cherry interior and am very glad I did rather than trying to stain something else. It's a really good match, even directly against original wood.

Pete

 

[Tranona]

Yeah, the smiley was meant to show I didn't take it totally seriously. I just liked the comment.

That said, for new joinery in Ariam I bought solid cherry and cherry-veneered ply to go with the existing cherry interior and am very glad I did rather than trying to stain something else. It's a really good match, even directly against original wood.

Pete

I specified mahogany in my new boat partly because I preferred it to the teak which looked yellow and "plastic" and the cherry which looked flat, and partly because I have a good stock of mahogany! Having said that a couple of additions (mug rack and kitchen roll holder) are teak from Howells and actually blend in very well both in style and colour. Having made those for my last two boats I know how tricky they are to make and look good so ready made was good.