Cherbourg 09 - The plan and the reality

LadyInBed

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The plan
Leave work an hour or so early on Thursday, home, change and down to boat in time to get down the river on the last half of the second HW. Pick up a mooring down in Poole, have a sleep and leave about 04:00 Friday.

The reality
I didn’t get away from work early so arrived at the boat about an hour late. The NE wind was blowing the boat into the river bank so the ‘bank side’ keel had grounded. Nothing for it but to prepare the boat for leaving and go to bed. First HW Friday was about 01:00 and Second about 06:00, set the alarm for 03:00 and slept.
Woke at midnight and felt refreshed so decided to get going, the boat was still into the reeds on the bank and afloat, but the jack line between the fore and aft buoys was under the hull and could foul the prop when leaving. The remedy is to put out a small kedge anchor, a little Danforth with a meter of heavy chain and rope from the sheet winch across the river, so I can pull the back end out. Got the anchor deployed from the dingy then took up some tension on the winch to bed it in and allow room to leave the dingy on the mooring. Let go the mooring lines and winched in the kedge, all went well, the back of the boat cleared the mooring, went into reverse and the kedge broke out with a hard pull.
Started down the river at about 01:30, the moon was clear but I still needed a torch to differentiate the port from starboard sticks (red have one reflective circle of tape, green have two), got round the bends and onto the straight bit, set the autohelm and hoisted the main. I had taken heed of the forecast and put two reefs in, I didn’t bother with the mizzen.
Crossed Poole chain ferry at 03:00 so at least an hour ahead of plan. Unrolled full genoa but not enough wind to do better than 3 knots so kept the motor on, considered shaking out the main but decided to wait. Out near Old Harry the wind picked up so killed the engine and all was peace.
By dawn, I noticed (on waking from a snooze) that the wind had steadily picked up and the starboard toe rail was quite close to the water, I was creaming along at a good 7 knots, I was starting to round up a bit if the wind caught me on a wave crest so put a few rolls in the genoa.
The course shaped up quite well and I entered the Grand Rade West around 13:00, it wasn’t quite the haven that I expected with the wind creating quite a chop, had to wait till the inner harbour to drop the sails and set fenders etc. . . . . I managed to sleep most of Friday afternoon and all night!

The return
Alarm set for 03:30 for a 4 o’clock departure, as the wind had been blowing hard across the pontoon I had asked Fireball if he would assist my departure, I suspected that as soon as I dropped my lines I would be blown across into the adjacent boat, he was as good as his word but the wind on the pontoon had died. Motor sailed with all sails up for about an hour till the wind had picked up but then I could only make about 15 degrees West of my intended course. The hope was then to tack with the East going tide but progress was good with the wind picking up to 23 knots, at which point I put a couple of rolls into the genoa. That was as good as it got as the wind then dropped off somewhat, I took the opportunity and tucked into a mid afternoon egg, bacon, tomato and fried bread.
When the tide turned I found myself South of Lulworth and 20 miles down wind of Poole! Tacking would have not got me a lot closer to Poole as there wasn’t enough East current to significantly up my speed. Nothing else for it but to roll up the genoa and motor in, passing the chain ferry just after 17:00 and picking up the mooring at 18:30.
In my book, a good weekends sail and a great Saturday evening out.
 
Plan:
Pick up RickP from my parents house where he could leave his car, on thursday evening. head on down to the boat, have dinner, early night and get up af 0330 for a 0400 departure.
The reality:
Picked RickP up from my parents house where he left his car on thursday evening, headed down to the boat, loaded the tender and went out for an early dinner, prepped the boat and then had a drink with a friend who had a couple of days of sailing planned.
Early night - and up at 0330 to depart at 0400...
Hoisted main just south of Pilsey Perch - not huge amounts of wind - so 1 reef will do. Continued to motorsail out of the harbour. Once clear of West Pole we deployed full genoa and killed the engine (and steaming light).
Once at the Eastern Solent main shipping channel it was apparent that a ferry was on it's way in and we were a little too close for comfort (difficult to tell as it was turning and we were heading into the turning circle!) ... so engine on with steaming light on - ferry immeadiatley stopped it's turn and went behind us :D. Engine off after 5 minutes to get clear and carry on.
Sun came up and we were heading downwind at around 120º apparent - full genoa and 1 reef in main - about 7kts ish
A few hours later the seas picked up a little and we started rounding up when we caught a wave incorrectly .... after a few of these we decided to pop the second reef in the main, but leave the genoa ... despite the 2nd reef we didn't loose much speed ....
Got in to the inner harbour before dropping the main then motored in to see the rest of the fleet - thanks must go to the berthing party who skillfully handled the lines so we could back into a berth without hitting anyone!

The return journey was always going to be bad with a NE ... up at 0330 again, off to see if LadyinBed was up - no - still in bed ... back, RickP had made the tea :) sort out the boat ready to go - go back to check LiB - yup - up, but with no wind he was happy to sort himself out ...

We're first out the chocks at 0410 and motor off to the inner harbour - single reef in the main again as the forecast is NE4-5 so should be ok - and motorsail off into the darkness ... aimed for the Nab, but soon had to ease off as the SOG was too low
Then the sun came up and the seas slowly increased ...
Tried sailing, but would be heading for West of Poole - no good as we needed to be going towards Chichester - so carried on motorsailing - got the the Needles at 1430. Dinner already booked with SWMBO so kept pushing ... right the way through the solent and out the other side - at least the water was flat and with a bit of tide we were getting 8-9 kts SOG with 1/2 genoa and main.
Got to Chichester entrance around 1830 - so we took turns to get ourselves ready for a quick departure and we soon picked up the mooring at 1900 ... all packed up and ready to board - except I forgot to get the killchord for the outboard - so open back up and play hunt the chord!!
Once we were all loaded it took a matter of minutes to get to the slipway to find we had a flat tyre (again!) Oh well - just have to pull harder ...
Dinner on the plates at 2000 ... just what we needed after 15hours motorsailing !
It's a shame we didn't get much of a sail in on the way back, but hey - we had a cracking sail over ... :)
 
The Plan:
Pick up 2 crew and drive down to Gosport - on board by 7.30 pm Thursday evening - David to drive up from Devon and join us around 8.30 pm. DInner on board and leave at 3 am friday. Aim to arrive at St Vaast by 3PM BST. Then Saturday morning leave ST Vaast 5 AM (BST) for Cherbourg.

The reality:
Joining worked as per plan, and we left Gosport at 3am. Motored out of the harbour and unrolled the main by No mans land, and moroed on with light winds till past Horse sand. Encountered many stange lights - on motoring yachts - Mast head only, Mast head plus steaming.

Unrolled Genny and switched off donk. Speed so far under engine had been dissapointing - wind NE 15 to 20 knots True, and speed under sail between 5 to 6 knots - we must have crudded up underneath. Speed gradually increases and wind also increases to 25 knots - toping 30 at times. Still full sail, and now averaging 7.5kn, and reaching 8.5 at times with some fun surfs at up to 10 knots (untuned speedo!). Seas are big and lumpy, but she is still very responsive to steering, so no need to role in the main.

Late morning with Barfleur light house in sight, we have a conflab about St Vaast - and the thought of beating up at 5 am from St Vaast to Barfleur the following morning. We decide to go straight to Chergbourg, but feel we might be letting other more intrepid mariners down!. Course is now dead down wind, and the seas with 2.5 knots of tide are very steep. A couple break accross the stern deck but don't reach the cockpit - we put lower washboard in as a precaution. Steering still remains easy - but very "active". We imagine what it would be like in a spring tide.....

Arrive Cherbourg at 2.30 pm BST, and find other "intrepid" mariners already in Cherbourg. Within minutes are boarded by Dabchick crew then Free Spirit. By 6pm - booze run out, crisis - but find 2 obscure riojas under bunk for dinner.

Cook DInner - but salt had gone missing - blame son who had the boat last w/e. Go and beg some from Janes Bouy - Chopper John navigates way - to find crew of JB starkers. but perseverses with task. Dinner completed.

Return Journey:

Leave Cherbourg with others at 4am BST and motor in flat calm till well outside breakwater. We make course for the Needles. We see Fireball ahead going for the Nab and other assorted yachts following out - with strange lights again (triclour plus steaming light). We motor sailed with full main till 12 ish when forecast promises an easterly. The wind starts to veer as promised and unrolled the full genny. reefing main in to below top spreaders (20knots true wind).

Initially we pointed our course, but very soon the wind backs again. We carry on sailing for an hour, but are heading way below our course towards Anvil. We then motor up to the needles having rolled up the main going dead into the wind. Pass Needles and motor up solent with SOG 0f 8-9knot. We could have sailed - but we were lazy and carried on under donk. We arrive on our mooring at 5.30.

Great Weekend - This was David's first Channel Crossing and whilst being queezy loved it. Apart from Firballs hearing defect, it was a most enjoyable weekend.
 
Well - the rest of the crowd heard it the same way as me .. Fiona .... ;)

Oh - I must just add that the strange lighting effects were definately not from our vessel - the tricolour & masthead white don't work!!
 
Well - the rest of the crowd heard it the same way as me .. Fiona .... ;)

Oh - I must just add that the strange lighting effects were definately not from our vessel - the tricolour & masthead white don't work!!

Bar steward.... Yes we did note that you were showing the correct lights. But the others.......
 
The Plan:
We see Fireball ahead going for the Nab and other assorted yachts following out - with strange lights again (triclour plus steaming light).


Lady in Bed preceeded us out and had no white stern light.

I assume he decided tricolour & steaming light best safe option.

WE managed to sail for just over an hour until we decided that to get to the needles a course to Poole would not cut it!! Hoisted the iron sail.
 
We then motor up to the needles having rolled up the main going dead into the wind. Pass Needles and motor up solent with SOG 0f 8-9knot. We could have sailed - but we were lazy and carried on under donk.

Tried sailing, but would be heading for West of Poole - no good as we needed to be going towards Chichester - so carried on motorsailing

Nothing else for it but to roll up the genoa and motor in

Hoisted the iron sail.

Shouldn't this thread be on Mobochat? :D :p :D
 
Lady in Bed preceeded us out and had no white stern light.

I assume he decided tricolour & steaming light best safe option.

WE managed to sail for just over an hour until we decided that to get to the needles a course to Poole would not cut it!! Hoisted the iron sail.

I thought he managed to fix his stern light - so perhaps that was a sensible alternative if he didn't manage to.

I suspect that the Jenneau can point a lot closer than we do, which is a rather disappointing 40Degrees.
 
Nav Light Troubles

So it's not just me that has nav light trouble on Cherbourg rallies.
I trust that Jhr will be directing his fire more widely in future. :)
 
All this talk of motoring reminds me of (I think) the 2006 trip, when the engine was on for most of the time, in both directions.

In fact, things got so desperate that a landing party went ashore to forage for fuel.....

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I am taking careful note of the seemingly numerous forumites with defective nav lights :D
 
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