Charles Stock Video Surfaced

Sun was out again yesterday! I read your former boat owners story on her blog. Very Sad..

Your boat gives you entrance to the likes of Awl, Deadmans, and Transit creeks - and a thousand other small uncharted gems where the sun always seems to shine. Happy cruising in her.
 
creeksailor said:
Sun was out again yesterday! I read your former boat owners story on her blog. Very Sad..

Your boat gives you entrance to the likes of Awl, Deadmans, and Transit creeks - and a thousand other small uncharted gems where the sun always seems to shine. Happy cruising in her.
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It is my wife's boat and she never knew about Lorna when she bought it. It is a very sad story and I really would like to have met her. When she realised she wasn't going to be leaving Woodbridge she joined the Deben Yacht Club and raced a Laser type boat. Now I am trying to work out why she had 3 head sails. There is a No1 and No2 genoa and a storm jib but it has roller reefing! Surely all I need do is fit the No 1 genoa and if it gets lively I can roll it is to the size of a storm jib? Is that right? At the moment the boat is on the Orwell and I believe SWMBO will not want to sail as much as me so I might well be doing solo sailing adventures so I shall be reading Charlie Stock again:-)
pete
(I use Toyboy because a cyber stalker follows any sign of my name.)
 
toyboy said:
Now I am trying to work out why she had 3 head sails. There is a No1 and No2 genoa and a storm jib but it has roller reefing! Surely all I need do is fit the No 1 genoa and if it gets lively I can roll it is to the size of a storm jib? Is that right?
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Maybe the selection of jibs predates roller reefing? I have a genoa on the furling gear and can hoist a storm jib on a separate inner forestay if it gets really bad. Never used in anger.....yet......, but have used the genoa rolled away a lot. Can be a bit baggy if trying to make headway to windward in a lot of wind, increasing leeway and if there is a sea running the bag can catch green water risking the sail. Depends what sort of sailing you are doing. To date I have only ripped a sail by putting a wave though it once and that was in my youth when I did racing and was in Biscay heading to the Canaries.
 
Karouise said:
Maybe the selection of jibs predates roller reefing? I have a genoa on the furling gear and can hoist a storm jib on a separate inner forestay if it gets really bad. Never used in anger.....yet......, but have used the genoa rolled away a lot. Can be a bit baggy if trying to make headway to windward in a lot of wind, increasing leeway and if there is a sea running the bag can catch green water risking the sail. Depends what sort of sailing you are doing. To date I have only ripped a sail by putting a wave though it once and that was in my youth when I did racing and was in Biscay heading to the Canaries.
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I hadn't thought of that:-) I cannot see any danger ocurring from green water as I imagine the boat will not go far from the Orwell/Stour/Deben area and now you have written I can see the advantage of a storm jib in certain circumstances but I cannot imagine changing the sail underway:-) The boat doesn't have a second forestay. In truth I cannot see the boat being used if it is windy:-)

pete
 
Charles Stock's approach was predicated on the kit that was available at the time. If you also read Maurice Griffith from 30-40 years earlier it all gets a bit clearer. They were using cotton sails not Dacron (Dacron didn't become common until late 60's). There was also the Wykeham Martin furling gear designed in the ??1920's just to roll up a jib completely. Fast forward, roller furling as we now know it is nowhere near ideal, sailshape of a rolled jib is often fuller when rolled, even with foam luff etc, which is the very reverse effect of what you need. Many sailors still opt for a jib change on the basis of better sail shape, and preserving the shape of your lighter weight Genoa. Twin forestays aren't essential, unless you are racing
 
Gladys said:
Charles Stock's approach was predicated on the kit that was available at the time. If you also read Maurice Griffith from 30-40 years earlier it all gets a bit clearer. They were using cotton sails not Dacron (Dacron didn't become common until late 60's). There was also the Wykeham Martin furling gear designed in the ??1920's just to roll up a jib completely. Fast forward, roller furling as we now know it is nowhere near ideal, sailshape of a rolled jib is often fuller when rolled, even with foam luff etc, which is the very reverse effect of what you need. Many sailors still opt for a jib change on the basis of better sail shape, and preserving the shape of your lighter weight Genoa. Twin forestays aren't essential, unless you are racing
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That will be on my winter reading list thanks. I see the argument clearly regarding the shape of the fore sail and I agree with it too thanks.

toyboy
 
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