Change of views

[sailaboutvic]

Its so funny how people views change
There was time if anyone mention refilling gas bottles from another bottle it was a big no no people where quick to say how dangerous it was and they shouldn't do it
Since the calor gas sage doing away with 4.5 kg bottles I notice people suggesting refilling from bigger bottles and so many saying there do .
It seems all the sudden its no longer a no no .
Although some of us been doing it for years and was shouted down from the same people who now advising where to buy the bits .

 

[RunAgroundHard]

I get your point. However, it is not what I would do as I think it is pointless. Currently running through my Calor 3.9 kg Propane stock and when done, I will change to Calor 6kg Propane. Too convenient just to swap for a full replacement. Even changing to another make is a lot less hassle than DIY fill, in my case.

If I was a live aboard, probably would DIY fill as it would be a lot easier I guess.

I think with the advancement in lithium batteries, in the next few years gas will recede into history.

 

[harvey38]

Years ago it wasn't necessary to do so but as prices soar, people start to think differently, the unacceptable becomes acceptable and then becomes part of every day life.

Personally I think it's a practice fraught with danger and I'll continue to enlighten others to the simple life of Safefill cylinders.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Years ago it wasn't necessary to do so but as prices soar, people start to think differently, the unacceptable becomes acceptable and then becomes part of every day life.

Personally I think it's a practice fraught with danger and I'll continue to enlighten others to the simple life of Safefill cylinders.

I use the camping gas I think there around £30 now . I can fill 4 and a half for that price by refilling .

 

[MontyMariner]

Everyone has to draw there own line on the risk chart.
My line must be quite slack, I sail solo, don't normally wear a LJ, eat stuff that's out of date, cross roads where there is no zebra crossing!
I give any event a mental risk assessment. What I don't like are others who try to impose their assessment on me.
I've survived for over 70 years, so my assessments can't be too bad

 

[ylop]

I use the camping gas I think there around £30 now . I can fill 4 and a half for that price by refilling .

Camping Gaz 907’s? I think they are more like £45 a pop now!

 

[Graham376]

Camping Gaz 907’s? I think they are more like £45 a pop now!

That's a hell of a price compared to €16 - €17 we pay here so we don't bother refilling. If paying UK price then we would.

 

[V1701]

Camping Gaz 907’s? I think they are more like £45 a pop now!

That is literally daylight robbery...

 

[ylop]

That's a hell of a price compared to €16 - €17 we pay here so we don't bother refilling. If paying UK price then we would.

To me its not a cost issue (we don't use that much gas - probably 2 cylinders worth a year) - its a convenience issue. Currently I can easily get 907s so I'll pay the premium, rather than have another butane cylinder at home that I have no use for other than refills. If I found supply was an issue I'd do DIY refills regardless of cost as there's no sensible alternative.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Camping Gaz 907’s? I think they are more like £45 a pop now!

Bloody hell really

 

[John_Silver]

Camping Gaz 907’s? I think they are more like £45 a pop now!

In France the going rate is 30 Euro, in the supermarkets. Which makes the UK price look even more as if there’s some profiteering going on.

 

[TonyMS]

In France the going rate is 30 Euro, in the supermarkets. Which makes the UK price look even more as if there’s some profiteering going on.

In Greece we pay 10 euros!

 

[Babylon]

Welcome back to ripoff Britain.

I don't use much (one cylinder of Camping Gaz a year typically) but I asked at Force 4 the other day and was told they're now forty-something quid! I recall paying something like £18 from the same chandlers when I first bought my boat sixteen years ago when the Pound was worth 1.6 times what it is today, so by that measure of inflation at least they shouldn't be more than £29.

Inflation calculator

 

[Momac]

For 907 refills I paid £39 a few weeks ago and £44 earlier in the year (from different sources).
Our usual caravan shop supplier had no bottle gas at all in early July.
I do think the price and lack of supply of smaller cylinders is encouraging people to take up home refilling, which is not ideal.
I haven't bought the refill kit ........yet

 

[sailaboutvic]

In France the going rate is 30 Euro, in the supermarkets. Which makes the UK price look even more as if there’s some profiteering going on.

Yea but they filled by who knows who Tony and not always you get a full bottle although at times they been over filled .
plus a lot of the bottles are held together by rust

 

[sailaboutvic]

We just returned from a 11 weeks cruise we have about a 1/4 of a bottle left out of four bottles which I filled before leaving the cost was £30 and I still have enough gas to fill another bottle and a half .
I except camping gas bottle in the UK go back to the factory are checked then refilled but so do other companys bottles and the cost of say a 907 and a 15kg bottle as a lot to say for it self.

 

[RunAgroundHard]

... the cost of say a 907 and a 15kg bottle as a lot to say for it self.

I take 5 minutes to lift an empty bottle from my locker, go to the chandlers, pay a fee, swap empty for full, put the full bottle back in the locker. On the face of it, I think if I cost my time, exchanging my empty for a full has a lot to say for itself.

 

[lustyd]

I take 5 minutes to lift an empty bottle from my locker, go to the chandlers, pay a fee, swap empty for full, put the full bottle back in the locker. On the face of it, I think if I cost my time, exchanging my empty for a full has a lot to say for itself.

If you get lucky and they have one to exchange. If I costed my time then Calor owe me tens of thousands for the running around I did last year looking for cylinders.

FloGas now deliver to my house and swap them out. Time and effort to me is very nearly zero.

 

[sailaboutvic]

I take 5 minutes to lift an empty bottle from my locker, go to the chandlers, pay a fee, swap empty for full, put the full bottle back in the locker. On the face of it, I think if I cost my time, exchanging my empty for a full has a lot to say for itself.

Where your chandelier? on your pontoon ?
for me to do that it take me the min of 2 hours and that if they had in stock ,
in less then a hour I can fill all 4 of my bottles and then different in cost would by us both a good meal for two with a bottle of wine with change for an ice cream .

 

[RunAgroundHard]

Where your chandelier? on your pontoon ? ...

I have never seen a chandler on a pontoon. All the marinas I visit have chandlers about a 5 minute walk from where the boat is tied up. Harbours are different, usually the store that sells the gas bottles is a lot further away. I phone ahead to check availability.