Captain Calamity (Raggie)

Re thread above

  • questio 1 -yes

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • question 2-no

    Votes: 1 6.7%

  • question 1 -no

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • question 2 -yes

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • Total voters
    15
DAKA

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Mr Crawley a raggie from Newquay has been rescued by the RNLI a staggering 19 times.

He refuses help however saying that its old ladies calling the RNLI in a panic.

Video 1 shows his latest rescue 23/1/13 (bit slow and dull)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFJ0NDKdNoo

Video 2 shows a previous rescue (clearly he was in need of a rescue)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZaaa1CURTM


Question 1

Should a law be passed (in the UK at least where free rescue is available) that gives jurisdiction of a situation to the coast guard on the basis he has access to trained personnel reports used to witnessing tragedy either by injury, death or pollution ( RNLI and helicopter )

Question 2

Would this raggie be better off re locating to safer waters where he could join other like minded sailors (safety in numbers) such as Chichester HISC ?
 
You miss the point entirely. The guy is an adrenaline junkie & likes extreme sailing. He has a catermaran (about his 4th as he has wrecked a few) and only sails it in high winds & along the surf line. He would love your close pass wash conditions, DAKA.

So "sailing somewhere safer" is not an option as far as he is concerned. As he oints out capsizing in the surf line is not that dangerous, but it isn't good for the structural integrety of the mast. He seldom calls for help & doesn't always accept it when offered, he has paddled whis wrecked boat ashore & walked home a couple of times.

There is a volunteer Coastwatch group, but it will never be able to cover the entire UK coastline 24/7 so there wll always be helpful old ladies reporting "boats in trouble" and the CG has only 3 options, send Coastwatch Volunteer (if available) send Lifeboat (always available) or ignore the report & risk widespread aprobation if the daft beggar drowns, or it actually is some poor sod in genuine need of help.

Ya daft banana DAKA, it is impossible to answer 2 questions on that poll. How hard can it be to set up a simple poll? Answer, too hard for DAKA! :p
 
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PaulGooch said:
Doesn't look in any more danger, or need of rescue, than the surf boarders, in either vid. Both times he made it safely to the beach on his own.
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I accept HE may not of been in much danger, thinking more of the surfers in the area, neither can see each other between the waves.

I just used his videos as an example, accepted his boats dont cause much damage to the environment as he wrecks them but that wouldnt follow with larger boats.

Anyway, not to worry.
searush the raggie is happy.
You as stinker are happy.
So its just me , the daft banana that thinks he's a plonker ;)
 
What am I voting for here? Whatever it is, I think it's a disgrace and I vote against it
 
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What am I voting for here? Whatever it is, I think it's a disgrace and I vote against it
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Well I would like to think you are voting against a raggie who being a raggie thinks he has the right to sail where he likes, in this case it is straight through an area full of surfers, however it is my belief this is causing reckless endangerment to said surfers and RNLI crew.
However searush ,( another reckless endangermentist ) believes this is acceptable.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN !
 
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DAKA said:
I accept HE may not of been in much danger, thinking more of the surfers in the area, neither can see each other between the waves.

I just used his videos as an example, accepted his boats dont cause much damage to the environment as he wrecks them but that wouldnt follow with larger boats.

Anyway, not to worry.
searush the raggie is happy.
You as stinker are happy.
So its just me , the daft banana that thinks he's a plonker ;)
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That's not what the poll questions were about ????????????????????????????????
 
PaulGooch said:
That's not what the poll questions were about ????????????????????????????????
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I accept the poll needed to be multiple choice, I thought the question was straight forward though ???????

RNLI get called to a boat caught in breaking waves with surfers in the area.

RNLI go to the clown (doesnt appear to be entirely without risk, as it is very shallow for the inshore boat , breaking seas with a cat , close, but I accept the RNLI skipper is competent ) .

Captain calamity responds by saying is is happy playing and doesnt want any help.


Poll asks the question

should the Coast guard have the power to direct RNLI to remove the danger.

Question 1

Should a law be passed (in the UK at least where free rescue is available) that gives jurisdiction of a situation to the coast guard on the basis he has access to trained personnel reports used to witnessing tragedy either by injury, death or pollution ( RNLI and helicopter )
 
DAKA said:
I accept the poll needed to be multiple choice, I thought the question was straight forward though ???????

RNLI get called to a boat caught in breaking waves with surfers in the area.

RNLI go to the clown (doesnt appear to be entirely without risk, as it is very shallow for the inshore boat , breaking seas with a cat , close, but I accept the RNLI skipper is competent ) .

Captain calamity responds by saying is is happy playing and doesnt want any help.


Poll asks the question

should the Coast guard have the power to direct RNLI to remove the danger.

Question 1

Should a law be passed (in the UK at least where free rescue is available) that gives jurisdiction of a situation to the coast guard on the basis he has access to trained personnel reports used to witnessing tragedy either by injury, death or pollution ( RNLI and helicopter )
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Must be me being thick then, cuz i can't see where the poll and post No7 are the same things

<insert puzzled smiley>
 
I think DAKA needs to be sent to do some volountary training (whether he wants to or not) as he obviously doesn't know when a sailor is in danger and when one isn't. If they could cover the creation of polls in vBulletin at the same time so much the better. He also needs to work out where surfers fit in - are they Mobo's or Raggies? If you take the mast off a yacht it doesn't become a MoBo unless it has an engine so he needs to spend a little more time on that. I do feel for him - it can't be nice going thorough life confused about your orientation.
 
DAKA said:
Should a law be passed (in the UK at least where free rescue is available) that gives jurisdiction of a situation to the coast guard on the basis he has access to trained personnel reports used to witnessing tragedy either by injury, death or pollution ( RNLI and helicopter )[/I]
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Oh perlease, not more bloody laws - haven't we got enough already?
 
Searush said:
No, he's realised that his original post didn't wind anyone up so he's had to change tack & have a go at something else. My dad used to do it all the time, when he was losing an argument, he'd start arguing about something else.
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Oi...do you mind thats my trick when aguing with the wife !
 
Searush said:
No, he's realised that his original post didn't wind anyone up so he's had to change tack & have a go at something else. My dad used to do it all the time, when he was losing an argument, he'd start arguing about something else.
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Are you and Paul colluding on a wind up DAKA gig ?

Questions are perfectly straight forward enough , I dont need to change tack to wind anyone up !

At this time of year I can just post a simple

"Hi"

and some will take hump :rolleyes: Thats the forum, not me !

look above at the thread "new forum rubbish" 66 plonkers log on to complain they cant log on :confused:
 
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DAKA said:
Question 1

Should a law be passed (in the UK at least where free rescue is available) that gives jurisdiction of a situation to the coast guard on the basis he has access to trained personnel reports used to witnessing tragedy either by injury, death or pollution ( RNLI and helicopter )
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Is it me? I haven't a clue what you mean after 'on the basis etc etc'. Please translate to jargon free English.
Still, no matter, as you can't possibly allow a coastguard to overrule the decisions the skipper of a lifeboat or the pilot of a helicopter have to make when on an operation.
 
srp said:
Is it me? I haven't a clue what you mean after 'on the basis etc etc'. Please translate to jargon free English.
Still, no matter, as you can't possibly allow a coastguard to overrule the decisions the skipper of a lifeboat or the pilot of a helicopter have to make when on an operation.
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That may explain the problem, thanks for your input.

I meant....................

The skipper of a boat in trouble (danger of sinking or causing damage to others) should not be allowed to refuse help from rescue services under control of coast guard.
The coast guard has reports from experts on the scene such as the RNLI and helicopter pilots who are used to witnessing events going tits up.



Captain calamity used as an example because he has refused help from RNLI several times .

I used the second video of captain calamity to demonstrate he has wrecked one boat already endanger injury to surfers as proof he isnt competent to make a decision that he isnt ready for help yet.
 
Nah, you're the one that needs help DAKA.

RNLI do say they will not compulsorily rescue people, but they will stand-by if the person on scene (lifeboat coxswain) decides there may be a need to rescue in due course. There is however already a legal power for the CG to be able to order a rescue in certain circumstances, but this requires a higher authority approval & should not be applied to non-comercial craft.

Are you not a memebr of Shoreline or similar? Do you not bother to read their magazines?
 
DAKA said:
Well I would like to think you are voting against a raggie who being a raggie thinks he has the right to sail where he likes, in this case it is straight through an area full of surfers, however it is my belief this is causing reckless endangerment to said surfers and RNLI crew.
However searush ,( another reckless endangermentist ) believes this is acceptable.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN !
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Personally, I wouldn't exactly call that a sailing boat anyway - looks more like a twin-hulled windsurfer and if that's the case surely he's in the right place? :rolleyes:

(Grabs hat 'n' coat and runs for sheltered harbour...)
 
DAKA said:
That may explain the problem, thanks for your input.

I meant....................

The skipper of a boat in trouble (danger of sinking or causing damage to others) should not be allowed to refuse help from rescue services under control of coast guard.
The coast guard has reports from experts on the scene such as the RNLI and helicopter pilots who are used to witnessing events going tits up.



Captain calamity used as an example because he has refused help from RNLI several times .

I used the second video of captain calamity to demonstrate he has wrecked one boat already endanger injury to surfers as proof he isnt competent to make a decision that he isnt ready for help yet.
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Ok, I see your point.
I seem to remember a post on here some time ago about a yacht skipper radioing the coastgaurd to say he was out of fuel, under sail against the tide and making no headway, purely to update them on his passage plan, and that he didn't need any help. Shortly afterwards an inshore lifeboat arrived and wanted to tow him to the nearest harbour. Presumably the crew just wanted a jolly in the RIB - can't blame a lifeboat crew for being enthusiastic though.
Not sure your example of the cat sailor was the best choice to illustrate your point (wasn't there a nutter in a home built boat/death trap who tried to sail from one of the West Country harbours last year?). Any incident like this is always dramatised by the media as most of their audience don't know any better, but really capsizing a small cat in waste deep surf is not really life threatening, and it didn't look like any surfers were in danger.
 
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