Can you name this knot and how do you tie it....

[auditdata]

This is the knot on the mainsheet fixed end. I have several knot apps on the iPad but can't find it. Any idea what it is called and how do you tie it. Apologies if the answer is simple but my search of the internet has drawn a blank and so has my rigger.

 

[burgundyben]

Blood knot - commonly used by fishermen I think.

 

[Victoria Sponge]

 

[Plevier]

Isn't it this with an extra turn or two? http://www.jeanneau-owners2.com/hintsandtips/id137.htm

 

[auditdata]

Thanks Troubadour. I think that is it. It is not a blood knot as the working end is part of the loops and does not come from the base on the outside?
There is still a challenge as the Jeanneau form states "actual name of the knot is currently unknown"
A challenge...

 

[Salty John]

Troubadour has it - it's called a halyard knot. That one has some extra turns.

 

[auditdata]

Brilliant Salty, John I look it up on the knot apps.
Thanks

 

[nigelmercier]

I hate it when people offer solutions that go off on a tangent, but ...

Why not splice an eye?

 

[auditdata]

Good point Nigel, but I actually like the look of it.......

 

[ghostlymoron]

I hate it when people offer solutions that go off on a tangent, but ...

Why not splice an eye?

Good idea if you're renewing the sheet but splicing braid on braid in old rope is very difficult.

 

[PlankWalker]

I hate it when people offer solutions that go off on a tangent, but ...

Why not splice an eye?

Halyard knot is quicker to do, enables halyard shackle to get closer to the sheave, halyard can be end for ended without shortening line, knot is a bu!!er to undo though and needs a marlin spike to undo it.

Plank

 

[Poignard]

It's featured in one of the Selden booklets and described as a 'halyard knot'.

 

[nigelmercier]

Good idea if you're renewing the sheet but splicing braid on braid in old rope is very difficult.

That's what I read too, then I tried it. I washed the last 2m of the rope in hot water, final rinse in fabric conditioner, and let it dry. No real difference from new rope.

I take the point about getting closer to the sheave though, although that's a big knot!

 

[alan_d]

I hate it when people offer solutions that go off on a tangent, but ...

Why not splice an eye?

Several benefits of using the halyard knot compared with a splice - will take the head of the sail higher up the mast and less likely to jam in the sheave, easier to end-to-end the halyard to equalise wear, shackle less likely to drop off when shackling or unshackling the sail.

 

[ghostlymoron]

That's what I read too, then I tried it. I washed the last 2m of the rope in hot water, final rinse in fabric conditioner, and let it dry. No real difference from new rope.

I take the point about getting closer to the sheave though, although that's a big knot!

I'll try washing and softening my halyards before trying any more splices as I nearly pulled the side of the shed last time when milking the cover back over splice.
Btw, I've been using the halyards knot for several years mainly because I needed to hoist a bit higher and the knot saves a couple of inches over a hard eye and shackle - it's cheaper too although difficult to undo.