Can you help to identify this Morse control?

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My engine controls are playing up, and I'd like to know what I am dealing with.
Do you recognise this:
External view:
Morse control external.jpg
It's not too clear in the image but that embossed mark in the side panel looks like a "W" inside a traditional, spoked steering wheel

Internal view:
Morse control internal.jpg

This gear likely came originally with the boat (Sigma 362, 1989), but I can't be certain.
Thanks for any contribution.
 
scrambledegg said:
My engine controls are playing up, and I'd like to know what I am dealing with.
Do you recognise this:
External view:
View attachment 70895
It's not too clear in the image but that embossed mark in the side panel looks like a "W" inside a traditional, spoked steering wheel

Internal view:
View attachment 70896

This gear likely came originally with the boat (Sigma 362, 1989), but I can't be certain.
Thanks for any contribution.
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TX-pic.jpg


http://www.tnorrismarine.co.uk/product/teleflex-morse-engine-controls/
 
scrambledegg said:
My engine controls are playing up, and I'd like to know what I am dealing with.
Do you recognise this:
External view:
View attachment 70895
It's not too clear in the image but that embossed mark in the side panel looks like a "W" inside a traditional, spoked steering wheel

Internal view:
View attachment 70896

This gear likely came originally with the boat (Sigma 362, 1989), but I can't be certain.
Thanks for any contribution.
Click to expand...

Looks like one of these

http://www.boatpartsandspares.co.uk/teleflex-morse-engine-controls-700ss-1854-p.asp

I think I have some thing similar in my workshop.
 
The insides are all much the same but the handles and neutral buttons vary, but that does look like a standard Teleflex one of the period.

What is the problem? Most problems can be solved by cleaning the mechanism as the attract dirt which mixes with the grease and for example causes the neutral button to stick.
 
scottie said:
What’s the problem?
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ok fair enough.
Two problems.
1. The neutral button sticks in, as you might spot in the picture I have a loop of cord to pull it out. Few things concentrate the mind as much as an engine that's stuck in gear.
2. New issue as of yesterday. I started off able to get full revs on the engine, but as I moved the lever back and forth my achievable revs dropped off after each movement until eventually i could get no more than idle revs. I Assume the throttle linkage cable is slipping through whatever clamps it in place (but at the moment I know nothing).
 
The sticky button is common and it will either be the spring or as I suggested needs cleaning. The button pushes the gear control lever in the control box and that may need cleaning as well. The second problem is unlikely to be the control end as the cables there are positively clamped and cannot slip. More likely to be the attachment of the inner cable to the throttle lever which relies on friction of a screw. The underlying cause may be a worn inner cable if the cable is original. However just check the lever on the engine first. Could be the easiest fix of the season!
 
scrambledegg said:
ok fair enough.
Two problems.
1. The neutral button sticks in, as you might spot in the picture I have a loop of cord to pull it out. Few things concentrate the mind as much as an engine that's stuck in gear.
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I had the opposite. I cast off on a windy day in Weymouth Marina only to find that it was stuck in neutral. I had to perform a rather stupid leap back to the rapidly disappearing pontoon with the mooring warp in order to avoid crashing into the row of boats opposite.
 
Try removing the red button first
Lack of revs I suspect may be due to the cable outer clamping slippingout of the securing clamp
 
Tranona said:
The sticky button is common and it will either be the spring or as I suggested needs cleaning. The button pushes the gear control lever in the control box and that may need cleaning as well. The second problem is unlikely to be the control end as the cables there are positively clamped and cannot slip. More likely to be the attachment of the inner cable to the throttle lever which relies on friction of a screw. The underlying cause may be a worn inner cable if the cable is original. However just check the lever on the engine first. Could be the easiest fix of the season!
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Sounds like solid-gold advice.
..but an easy fix!? For me , that would be the first ever...
 
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The red button is actually a brass button with a red plastic cover. Ours was sticking because the red plastic had swelled over the years. I simply removed the red cover. The spring was fine.

That was years ago and it's been working perfectly since. It it aint broke....
 
Ruffles said:
The red button is actually a brass button with a red plastic cover. Ours was sticking because the red plastic had swelled over the years. I simply removed the red cover. The spring was fine.

That was years ago and it's been working perfectly since. It it aint broke....
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I found that a good squirt with PTFE lubricant (not WD40!) around the mechanism sorted mine out very well after ten years' use. Helped to remove the handle first, with the grub screw underneath.

I replaced the red button from ASAP Supplies: https://www.asap-supplies.com/red-neutral-button-cap-for-tfx-700ss-control-head
 
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