Camper & Nicholson 48

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I'm looking for information on the Camper & Nicholson 48.
As I found only few boats of this model around internet I wonder if this boat is a very special one or she suffered some building problem and not many have been sold. Any further information is welcome if somebody could help!
Many thanks from Genoa (Italy), Andrea

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Ciao Andrea


tell me: what do you want to know. We have a Nic 48 since 4 1/2 years now. We live aboard her and are very pleased with her. Are you planning to buy one? if yes, which one? where did you find her and what is her building number? We have seen some Nic's 48 before we bought ours (number 40 of 42 built)

One of the reasons there weren't many built is, of course, the fact she was not exactly cheap (to put it mildly). Another reason is certainly the concept: fantastic boat for up to 4-6 people. But she was built with 7-8 berths. The cockpit is simply too small for 7-8.

There were diffenent lay-outs built. Some were nicer than others.
So do ask anything you wish to know.


Meantime: fair winds


<hr width=100% size=1>Peter a/b SV Heerenleed, Steenbergen, Netherlands
 
Dear Peter,

many thanks for your prompt reply already useful. yes, with some friends I'd like to buy one and the typology is exactly what I like (strong boat, for long and safe cruise, 4 people max 6 onboard (I do not like crowded boats!).
The only boats I found are two Nic 48 in South France quite nice (specially one) , unfortunately I do not know the serial number but they are built both in 1974. Unfortunately they are asking too much money (Euro 135.000 and Euro 153.000) in my opinion as another one was sold this summer in Spain for USD. 109.000 and apparently another one is for sale in the USA for about the same amount (considering the present USD/Euro difference it is a lot of money!

However what is warrying me is that I learned through some internet website that a lot of Camper & Nicholson models suffered more than other boats of blister problems. Did your's suffered this problem? did you made any big repairs?

On the other hand I love very much this boat which I would like to buy to cruise the Med sea and , why not, on the east costs of USA and Caribbeans.

If you heard about some C&N 48' for sale please let me know.

It is a plaesure to have exchanges with people who love sailing therefore many thanks again for your support.
Have a nice day!, Ciao Andrea



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Nic 48 blisters?

Hi again,

Our actual Nic has had an osmosis treatment. The only blisters we have seen are on the rudder (always suspect on any GRP boat) and on the 4 square spots the boat had been supported during the treatment.

We had another Nic (35) before this one, and had some, but not seriouos blistering. We simply checked every time she was ashore, sanded the blisters away and filled with International Waterproof epoxy filler, and never had serious probs. In the Netherlands, we have a circle of Nicholson owners, I shall ask at our next meeting (february) but have not hear about serious osmosis problems.

One of the 48's we viewed before buying ours in Greece was in the S of France. She was moored in (I think) Juan-les-Pins. The double in the aft cabin had been modified into a rreal double bed. We found that the former owner(s) made to many ugly modifications th the interior and her price (FFrs 900.000 in 1999) was on the high side for her age. We finally found ours in Greece: a nicer lay-out and no ugly mods in the interior. I'll PM you the price we paid, if you like. just let me know.

When we bought ours, the decks were virtually gone and needed replacement in a not too far away future (done last year). The sails were rubbish (replaced 2001). The prop shaft installation was rather worn (replaced 2000), all seacocks (16 I believe) had seized, replaced them all upon arrival in the Netherlands, and all rubber parts on engine have been replacced 2000. We repainted the hull last september, and we are very very pleased indeed with the result.

In short: we have turned the boat inside out and upside down, everything has been looked at and repared/replaced where necessary. Next season we shall have to look at the standing rigging, and, after that, we should be able to go back to a normal maintenance schedule.

Much work, but rather rewarding really. She sails well, thought she likes to have some real wind, she is easily handled between the two of us, and, though quite large, she feels like a sailboat and is very predictable. Perhaps not the most beautiful part but a real asset is the fixed roof over the cockpit: in our northern clime a love to look at all the soaked people sailing by where we hardly bother to bring out the oilies. Last (very long and hot) summer, the roof provided us with the most welcome shade.

I shall keep a look-out for Nic's 48 for sale


<hr width=100% size=1>Peter a/b SV Heerenleed, Steenbergen, Netherlands
 
Andrea,

I also own a Nich built in '78 and she is bullet proof. She is a centre cockpit 39 ketch and has no blister problems what so ever. When I bought her 2 years ago the surveyer stated that the moister readings were zero. She has never been epoxied or treated. I too heard much about osmosis in Nichs and initially was very concerned but it has turned out to be the best buy I have ever made. Bear in mind that all Nichs were extremely expensive when new......the standard model of the '39 cost 55000 pounds in '78. They were built to that price!
Intend to live aboard in a couple of years time with my SHMBO and plan a ten year circumnavigation. I'd trust a Nich anytime.

Nigel

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Many thanks Nigel of your advice and I'll keep you informed ! Let me know if your plan include Italy (Genoa) also ...... maybe at that time I can show you my Nic!, Ciao Andrea

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Re: Nic 48 blisters?

Hi Peter,

indeed it would be of interest to know the price you paid (confidentially you can e-mail directly on my personal address "a.serra@bancostains.it")
One of the two C&N we saw was exactly the same and now the asking price is Euro 153.000.
I noted they refit the interiors but even if is a nice job the originality of the boat has now prejudiced. The deck apparently has been replaced in 2001 and the general conditions are good. The sails have to be replaced in full. They fit a bowthrust recently and a new windlass anchor has been replaced.
Still remain that this price is too high for me.

Let's keep in touch.
ciao, Andrea


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Re: Nic 48 blisters?

Hello ,

i'm very interestede in buying a Nicholson 48. Can you give me information concerning her sailing performance. She is 14 tonnes weignt and 1,68m draft. Is she a real sailing boat or better a motor sailer.
I'm afraid she is a lazy boat under 15knots of wind. Am i true.

have you had strong conditions???

Thank you for your answer.

Cédrc from france
 
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