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I'm contemplating buying gimbals for my Cookmate 1600 stove housing project.

http://yachtzephyr.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/stove-project/

If you have the proper gimbal set, do you ever need to use the facility to move the arm through 90degs as per the design? Is it a really useful facility, or could you have got away with something far more rudimentary?

£65 seems a lot to pay for something which may not be a major benefit.
 
Wunja said:
Yes. I need to use mine to bring the stove far enough forward to open the top when filling it.
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The design of the Origo gimbals is such that when correctly installed
they make it easy to raise the cooker for gimbal operation and when hinged down it facilitates the opening of the cooker to remove and replace the fuel cans in a stable controlled condition. Wouldn t be without them. In port I use the cooker in the lower fixed position where the cooker rests on the surface below it.
 
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Bilgediver said:
The design of the Origo gimbals is such that when correctly installed
they make it easy to raise the cooker for gimbal operation and when hinged down it facilitates the opening of the cooker to remove and replace the fuel cans in a stable controlled condition. Wouldn t be without them. In port I use the cooker in the lower fixed position where the cooker rests on the surface below it.
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my stvke came with gimbals

space is at a premium on the boat and they greatly increase the size of the space the stvne takes up because of the extra swinging room

the mark 1 galley box had a gimbal

after using it for a while I abandoned the gimbal in the mark 2

I really do not forsee me doing anything more than boiling a kettle while at sea

and I can boil that at almost any angle

so I am a very happy gimbal free sailor

over-rated as a feature if you ask me

Dylan

the gimbal-less ktl galley mark 2 can be seen in this epic film

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/blogs/the-legend-of-the-egg-banjo/
 
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dylanwinter said:
I am a very happy gimbal free sailor

over-rated as a feature if you ask me
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That's cos you're rarely at sea for very long. Try frying sausages at 30° of heel with a fixed cooker. I'm sure it's possible, but it doesn't sound like much fun.

Even if you're not cooking a meal, the gimballed stovetop makes a very handy level work surface. I have a roasting tin which (quite by chance) fits precisely into the fiddles on the top of the cooker; you can stand an open jar of peach chutney there in a force 7 (I have) and it will still be there when you come to make the next sandwich.

Pete
 
just the same as Russel then

prv said:
That's cos you're rarely at sea for very long. Try frying sausages at 30° of heel with a fixed cooker. I'm sure it's possible, but it doesn't sound like much fun.

Even if you're not cooking a meal, the gimballed stovetop makes a very handy level work surface. I have a roasting tin which (quite by chance) fits precisely into the fiddles on the top of the cooker; you can stand an open jar of peach chutney there in a force 7 (I have) and it will still be there when you come to make the next sandwich.

Pete
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R does similar sailing to me

bit of creek crawling

on a small boat space is very valuable

and if I am in a seven at sea then pickle or sausages will be well down my list of priorities

D
 
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Bilgediver said:
The design of the Origo gimbals is such that when correctly installed
they make it easy to raise the cooker for gimbal operation and when hinged down it facilitates the opening of the cooker to remove and replace the fuel cans in a stable controlled condition. Wouldn t be without them. In port I use the cooker in the lower fixed position where the cooker rests on the surface below it.
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What do you mean by the lower fixed position please? Is this part of the gimbals I haven't noticed?
 
Origio single burner, gimballed.

I use the "down" position when I want to clean the unit but leave it up (and swinging) when cooking.

I found the fixing a bit naff so made up two varnished mahagony blocks which look quite nice.

I also use the pan holders.

I would not want to be making tea when hit by wake without both of them.
 
colhel said:
What do you mean by the lower fixed position please? Is this part of the gimbals I haven't noticed?
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Seems to be .....The gimbals have an upper position when latched and vertical however unlatch and the links swing to allow the cooker to sit on the base below and become fixed and stable for cooking in port and opening up to remove the fuel pans. However the cooker is still attached to the boat so held safely in place.
 
Well I'm hoping to swap my ungimballed 2 burner Origo with a gimaballed single burner, 'cos even at moderate angles of heel - IE when not layed out flat on the mud - the flames lick up the front (or back) of the stove.

Don't understand the gimbal you're talking about, but it's important, not only in F7, that the burner does gimbal.
 
Bilgediver said:
Seems to be .....The gimbals have an upper position when latched and vertical however unlatch and the links swing to allow the cooker to sit on the base below and become fixed and stable for cooking in port and opening up to remove the fuel pans. However the cooker is still attached to the boat so held safely in place.
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I'll have a look to see if mines the same. Thanks
 
Gimbals for stove

You can not escape from the fact that gimbals holding a stove will take up space. You can make gimbals for this set up quite easily out of stainless steel sheet. Bolt it to the sides of the stove and the sides rise up to a pivot point on the sides of the cupboard enclosure. These ss sides can provide heat protection for wood as well.
If you rely on the weight of the stove to provide the pendulum effect then you need the pivot points well above the stove.(hang the stove low) However from geometry you longer the pendulum arm the wider the traverse (of more concern how far back the stove moves towards the hull. So how many degrees of gimbal do you need. A lot for level stove when lying the boat over on a bank or perhaps 30 degrees for normal heeling.

I improved the situation by having a shorter pendulum arm and then by fitting a mass on a stiff rod under the stove and fixed to the stove body. This would for you require a slot in the under pan for the rod to swing in. A mass perhaps 1kg on the end of a rod say 30 cms long. It needs a space below the stove to swing in. This could allow the stove to be mounted about 10 cms below the pivot bolts so swing toward the hull of the boat is about 8cms.More manageable. NB 2 rods one each side attached to the side body of the stove might be easier to mount.

Note however that the mass and height of the pot and contents on top will detract from the pendulum effect of the weight so you will need to experiment to get enough righting moment form the weight. good luck olewill
 
Bilgediver said:
The design of the Origo gimbals is such that when correctly installed
they make it easy to raise the cooker for gimbal operation and when hinged down it facilitates the opening of the cooker to remove and replace the fuel cans in a stable controlled condition. Wouldn t be without them. In port I use the cooker in the lower fixed position where the cooker rests on the surface below it.
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Thanks, checked mine out today and it hinges down.didnt know that.:)
 
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