buying home or abroard

[Seastoke]

so if you find a boat ,one at home and one away both the same spec etc how much cheaper should the one away be before you go to all the hassle, buying abroad cheers roy

 

[petem]

so if you find a boat ,one at home and one away both the same spec etc how much cheaper should the one away be before you go to all the hassle, buying abroad cheers roy

For me it would depend on where it is (i.e. how easy it is to view and how cheap it would be to get it back to the UK) and also what the broker and paperwork are like.

Also, how much you value your time and sanity! Plus how much appetite you have for risk.

Incidentally, you say "same spec", I would suggest that the same "condition" is unlikely unless you chance upon a boat that has been cherished.

 

[Greg2]

I guess it will depend on the buyer and what is important to them. For me price, condition, provenance and service history are all factors to be considered. Hassle and expense in completing the purchase and getting the boat home would also be considerations so balancing all of those would lead me to a conclusion but speaking hypothetically it is difficult to say what that would be. Price would be an important factor though as we only buy if the price is right because we don’t have money to burn.

As a real world example, when we bought our last boat (Broom 41) we had an option of one in Holland and one locally. The local boat was in ‘showroom’ condition and the one in Holland looked tidy in the pictures but not quite as good as the local one. Had bigger engines though. Negotiated price difference between the two put the local boat at around 12% more than the Dutch boat. Condition of the local boat combined with it being a stock boat with a warranty from an excellent Broker (NYA) won the day.

 

[Portofino]

so if you find a boat ,one at home and one away both the same spec etc how much cheaper should the one away be before you go to all the hassle, buying abroad cheers roy

Cheap enough to mitigate all the travel expenses and repatriation costs .

In the real world there arn,t “ both the same spec “ .One home another far away for much less + repatriation fees.

So some other factor(s) comes into play as mentioned above , condition , SH history , provenance Hrs etc .+ much more .
Any how are you sure the cheapest is best, I mean ps explain the race to bottom re price of a SH boat ?

 

[MapisM]

So some other factor(s) comes into play as mentioned above , condition , SH history , provenance Hrs etc .+ much more .
Any how are you sure the cheapest is best, I mean ps explain the race to bottom re price of a SH boat ?

Positively +1.
The OP question is purely theoretical, hence irrelevant in practice, imho.

 

[Seastoke]

Positively +1.
The OP question is purely theoretical, hence irrelevant in practice, imho.

Not really as if say you like two boats , even different models but the one abroad is cheaper then there are factors that can make he uk one cheaper , so what I was looking for was what sort of percentage. Difference you need

 

[MapisM]

Well, I understood your "both the same spec etc" sentence as implying two identical boats - hence my reply.
The assumption you are now making is somewhat different, but fwiw I still don't have a sensible answer to your question.
I went through a rather extensive used boat search lately, seeing literally several dozens of boats.
But whether they were abroad or not has never been a criteria - and also how far or close they were (within reason).
After all, if a boat is far from where you are planning to use her, it's just an opportunity to make a bit of cruising...
But that's me, of course!

 

[simonfraser]

Hopefully its a long term purchase, so the condition and the correct boat is far more important than saving a few %
If you are trying to save money, dont buy a boat.

 

[wizzer]

so if you find a boat ,one at home and one away both the same spec etc how much cheaper should the one away be before you go to all the hassle, buying abroad cheers roy

Well, I’ve just bought a Channel Island 32 which is in SW Finland. It wasn’t particularly cheaper than perhaps it would have been in the UK. The boat is very good and I’ve been over & sea trialed her. Nothing of a similar spec currently available in the UK. I did initially consider the fact that she’s 1,300 nautical miles away from home a negative point, however I now see that as providing me with a free-of-charge once in a lifetime experience, should I leave her there until next Spring & motor her home over a period of a couple or three weeks.
Basically YOLO.

 

[Tranona]

Not really as if say you like two boats , even different models but the one abroad is cheaper then there are factors that can make he uk one cheaper , so what I was looking for was what sort of percentage. Difference you need

There are so many variables it is impossible to give a %age. You have to do an individual sum to arrive at the total cost of buying and getting the boat to where you want to use it, including all the related costs such as travel and any administrative costs. You then like any other consumer choice decide which one is better value to you.

As a generality, buying boat in Europe now is poorer value than it was, say 2 years ago simply because of the drop in the value of the £. Buying a boat in southern Europe if you want it in the UK is also generally not a good deal as the cost ost of moving, particularly a lower value boat offsets any lower price - made worse by the poor exchange rate.

 

[rafiki_]

When I was looking for an Azi 39, there were many options in Italy and Greece, possibly saving £40k on purchase price. I estimated about £25k to view, survey, purchase and repatriate. I also assumed another £15k to clean, correct the gelcoat, and replace the canopies. Even then I don’t think I would have got a better boat than Rafiki, so played safe and bought the best one I could find here.

 

[Seastoke]

Thanks for all tips , Iam just putting a plan in place for when we start looking

 

[rlw]

I have bought 2 boats in the Med and had them trucked back to Belgium. Worked wel for me and allowed me to buy boats that were too expensive locally. My approach has always been do do as much of the preperation as possible remote and discuss the price point at which you are willing to travel. Conditions do vary in the med and some DIY will probably be required to get the boat up to spec. Unfortunately the echange rate is not in your favor. As mooring are expensive in the Med those who want to sell are motivated to sell in the winter before the next 10-15K mooring charge hits. for my last 40 footer travel (2X) liftout and engine checkup probably cost 2.5K max and another 5-6K got it back to Belgium. Spent the same again on new covers and some bits and bobs but saved around 40K on similar local boats.

 

[oldgit]

There was, until the lunatics took over the asylum , clear blue financial water between buying a boat in UK vs elsewhere in Europe.
A forecast of doom and gloom at the time in Europe ensured boat asking prices were less than optimistic, add a very advantageous exchange rate in our favour and there were bargains to be sought and found.
You could also arrange your transport in euros.
The wheel has now turned full circle with the EU outlook on the ascendant and boats now going in the opposite direction.
Similar things have happened in the past, mainly with the pound/ dollar.
You could fill a container out of Florida with two or three year old Harley Sportsters(so much junk in US) buy them in dollars and sell them in sterling with a small profit after shipping and taxes.
When the pound collapsed against the yen, UK sports cars disappeared to Japan in droves , especially Lotus Elans.

The horse has bolted and the stable door is firmly shut....for now ?