buying a older boat (sunseeker marinque 91)

Yes I agree with the double spending but you dont buy a boat becuse there sound investments as it can be as bad as having a drug habit lol

as i said earlier I was disappointed that they couldn't get there act together for the sea trial and spoke with them today to tell him that I will be back for sea trial lift out and survey.

The paraselle bimini is in reasonable condition. might need a good scrub up
 
Keithleask said:
Trend will not deal direct with the public and refer you back to sunseeker who add their bit. I was quoted over £10k for 4 sections of screen. I hunted around and it is very difficult to find any independants who can fit these large screens in their ovens. Getting the curve just right is a real issue, not sure how big your screens are but mine in old money are 84" long and that is right on the border line for a lot of ovens, hope it. Works out ok for you,
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Unfortunately i can believe that quote. When we needed new fly windscreens for a Fairline 36, Trend Marine quoted me £2.5K. Thankfully an independent was found who could do the job, but like you say not many can take on the work.
 
Thats interesting stuff did you find a solution for the situation, its only two that need the curve in them on this model, I take it thats 84 inches I think we should go into business making curved bits of perspex at 10k a pop we could start looking at some nice shiney new sunseekers, but then again i suppose half of the fun is putting your own touch to it ;)
 
Yes it's only the two that need to be curved on my boat and it was in inches , I think the sunseeker quote was so expensive because Trend may not have the patterns any more and they needed to cover themselves in case they had to be templated from scratch. My side screens have loads of very fine marks on them, they look like tiny pin holes or blow holes but these are not a real problem to get made but they are still about 80 inches long. The issue with the curved ones was they were leaking quite badly ( apart from being u quite milky to look through) I managed to re fit some new internal seals which were really awkward to get in but that sorted the leak, just waiting to see if anyone comes up with an answer to replacing /supplying the curved ones, we live in hope!!
 
captaindan said:
Just been to spain to look at a sunseeker martinique that i have agreed a price on, when i got over there for a look round the vessel i found a few bits that were wrong with it, and am in two minds whether to proceed with survey and transaction. I would like your opinions and veiws on this and am wondering weather i have a bargain for the price or am buying a wreck.

The first off put was that the generator does not work as it is seized.

The windscreen has bad sun damage and the perspex has little cracks in them

there was a problem with the domestic battery no life there however the broker said this was new problem which the seller would investigate.

the cock pit fiberglass console had loads of little pits in it.

the fridge looks like its been leaking

the go faster stripe on one side has faded from the sun

wasn't able to have a sea trial (however I can go back for one)

Now this boat is a old boat 1991 so I was expecting wear and when looking round the other ones in the Uk there up for around 45000 to 50000 even though they aint going to sell for that ,the Spanish boats seem to be slightly cheaper than the Uk.
I have agreed a price of 32500 pounds sterling

I have an estimation in my mind that im gonna have to spend £3500 to £5000 putting these bits right, do you think its viable option to buy this less loved vessel or should I look to spend a little extra money for a better example. :confused:
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Ask yourself whether you want a boat or a project? :ambivalence:

Do yourself a favour and buy one locally, from a decent broker! This boat is knackered, you'll never finish it and you'll spend the same again trying to get her right.

:disgust: WALK AWAY! :disgust:

Just look at Whitelighter's thread on bringing a Bavaria back, he was lucky and sold it after one season.

RR
 
Keithleask said:
just waiting to see if anyone comes up with an answer to replacing /supplying the curved ones, we live in hope!!
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I succesfully replaced a curved sports boat screen section with Makrolon (polycarbonate sheet I think), it is strong enough and flexible enough to do it yourself. I only needed it for 6 months whilst waiting glass replacement under insurance, however on the basis of that six months use I would use it again for long term if necessary, the curvature gave it a lot more strength in the frame than was apparent from the flat sheet. You couldn't tell easily that it wasn't glass. £75 for the sportsboat, maybe doble for yours?
 
RogerRat said:
Ask yourself whether you want a boat or a project? :ambivalence:

Do yourself a favour and buy one locally, from a decent broker! This boat is knackered, you'll never finish it and you'll spend the same again trying to get her right.

:disgust: WALK AWAY! :disgust:

Just look at Whitelighter's thread on bringing a Bavaria back, he was lucky and sold it after one season.

RR
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If the above list is the full extent of the problems It hardly sounds knackered, just sounds like a fairly typical 19 year old sportsboat.

Knackerd would be engines and drives shot, hull failing , that sort of thing.

The above just sound like simple ,easy to replace maintenance items to me. You cant expect a 19 year old sports boat to be in perfect condition,can you?

Get a sea trial and if that checks out , get a good survey, then when you have the full picture ,decide. Unless of course there are others in obviously better condition for the same or not much more money, but im presuming there arent or the op wouldnt even be looking at this one.
 
julians said:
Get a sea trial and if that checks out , get a good survey, then when you have the full picture ,decide. Unless of course there are others in obviously better condition for the same or not much more money, but im presuming there arent or the op wouldnt even be looking at this one.
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If you get a sea trial and have a good survey. Do you think that will mean you'll get a good boat? Cos sorry, forget it, All you will have is a list of jobs on sun damaged neglected 19 year old boat that's 1500 miles away.

Even with a good survey, things get missed and the surveyor will have 'out clauses'

Please ask 'Whitelighter'! :confused:

He had a full survey by a highly respected, well known surveyor. Got him nowhere, the boat had all sorts of problems and the reason his boat wouldn't start was that water had leaked into the bell housing and out into the starter motor oops, yes, this common fault was missed at survey and this boat had just had a 'Full service'.

There are loads of nice boats around and when buying an older one, it is even more important to buy one that's been looked after. imho.:eek:

It really isn't worth it, honest. :ambivalence:

There are plenty more boats in the sea and all that.

RR
 
I think on the contrary you can buy a 5 year 10 year or twenty year boat they can all cost you a boat load of money excuse the pun:) if you buy a bad one. If you end up with a misleadig survey you can have that misfortune in england, spain, it still not gonna matter. I can see the point of having a boat to enjoy instead of a project 1000 mile away as your not going to be wanting to spend your time fixing and restoring things as if you would if your boat was up at a boat yard or marina near your home. When i bought my first boat i didnt know the peoeple that looked after it or sold it to me and was in there hands with there word as there bond. I now know they are good reputable poeple but at the time could only use my own judjement as to there intentions, I think what im trying to say is that there are good reputable peoeple every where even in spain you just need to find them, and unless you buy brand new and have the comfort of a warranty we are all at the mercy to the perils that can go wrong when you purchase a boat
 
captaindan said:
I think on the contrary you can buy a 5 year 10 year or twenty year boat they can all cost you a boat load of money excuse the pun:) if you buy a bad one. If you end up with a misleadig survey you can have that misfortune in england, spain, it still not gonna matter. I can see the point of having a boat to enjoy instead of a project 1000 mile away as your not going to be wanting to spend your time fixing and restoring things as if you would if your boat was up at a boat yard or marina near your home. When i bought my first boat i didnt know the peoeple that looked after it or sold it to me and was in there hands with there word as there bond. I now know they are good reputable poeple but at the time could only use my own judjement as to there intentions, I think what im trying to say is that there are good reputable peoeple every where even in spain you just need to find them, and unless you buy brand new and have the comfort of a warranty we are all at the mercy to the perils that can go wrong when you purchase a boat
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Fair enough, good luck.:nonchalance::nonchalance:
RR
 
It all comes down to cost and time, do you want the boat and have you the time and money to do the work, if so and you can negotiate a decent price then it would be worth it, if not walk as there are many great boats currently for sale.
 
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