LadyInBed
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guardian.co.uk/uk_news/
Well I suppose they have got to justify the new QH /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Well I suppose they have got to justify the new QH /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Busiest year yet for lifeboats
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TLOM
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What's QH??
TLOM
TLOM
LadyInBed
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Their quarters head - KO?
aitchw
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Very plush. Ensuite loo, no wonder they spent so much!
Hate these lumped together stats, they tell you absolutely nothing and read by the non boating community would look like boat users are are getting less and less responsible. Given the number of unnecessary attendances to non incidents reported by many on these forums it would appear the RNLI is not helping the cause.
Hate these lumped together stats, they tell you absolutely nothing and read by the non boating community would look like boat users are are getting less and less responsible. Given the number of unnecessary attendances to non incidents reported by many on these forums it would appear the RNLI is not helping the cause.
ribrunt
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Said HQ saved c.1m in year 1 of full operation through VAT, external courses and other income.
Would you prefer that the RNLI did not launch to apparent non-incidents ? Usually CG requests launch of LB...It's rare that RNLI self-launches to such things.
Hope this sheds some light & thanks for continued support!
RR
Would you prefer that the RNLI did not launch to apparent non-incidents ? Usually CG requests launch of LB...It's rare that RNLI self-launches to such things.
Hope this sheds some light & thanks for continued support!
RR
aitchw
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First, let me make it clear that I have nothing but respect for the RNLI and will always support them.
My fears are that through misreporting/misunderstanding of the figures that they may eventually be used in support of legislation that would adversely affect all recreational boaters.
My comment on unecessary call outs is based on forum members often 1st hand experiences related here. The fact that CG initiated the call out doesn't alter the fact that figures may be higher than they need be.
I totally accept that it is better to respond than not in marginal situations.
My fears are that through misreporting/misunderstanding of the figures that they may eventually be used in support of legislation that would adversely affect all recreational boaters.
My comment on unecessary call outs is based on forum members often 1st hand experiences related here. The fact that CG initiated the call out doesn't alter the fact that figures may be higher than they need be.
I totally accept that it is better to respond than not in marginal situations.
pvb
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You\'ve hit the nail on the head...
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My fears are that through misreporting/misunderstanding of the figures that they may eventually be used in support of legislation that would adversely affect all recreational boaters
[/ QUOTE ] The RNLI's bogus stats will ultimately come home to roost and affect all of us.
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My fears are that through misreporting/misunderstanding of the figures that they may eventually be used in support of legislation that would adversely affect all recreational boaters
[/ QUOTE ] The RNLI's bogus stats will ultimately come home to roost and affect all of us.
alistairedw
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Re: You\'ve hit the nail on the head...
Extract below from ybw news item on RNLI
Poole were not the only ones to have a busy year, with call-outs being up 8% all over the country. Notable increases happened in Dover, whose call-outs rose by 75%, and Walmer and Hastings, who were up by 50% from 2004. Martyn Smith, RNLI divisional inspector, said increases reflected a rise in numbers of people taking part in leisure activities such as kite surfing, jet skiing and diving.
So it would appear that a lot of the apparent growth in call outs is due to non boating activities. I do not regard jet skiing as a form of boating!
Extract below from ybw news item on RNLI
Poole were not the only ones to have a busy year, with call-outs being up 8% all over the country. Notable increases happened in Dover, whose call-outs rose by 75%, and Walmer and Hastings, who were up by 50% from 2004. Martyn Smith, RNLI divisional inspector, said increases reflected a rise in numbers of people taking part in leisure activities such as kite surfing, jet skiing and diving.
So it would appear that a lot of the apparent growth in call outs is due to non boating activities. I do not regard jet skiing as a form of boating!
KevB
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Do the figures include the beach guards? They claim to save an enormous amount of people. makes the figures look good.
wooslehunter
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With lots of respect for the RNLI and the great job they do, let's not forget the independants. I believe some of the independants in/around the Solent come very close to beating the 147 launches for the Poole boat.
The independants fund themselves completely without the backup of a huge donation engine. The crews generally do most of the boat maintenance themselves and then go and shake a tin in the highstreet, switching into callout mode 24/7 immediately when required.
Certainly around the Solent, busiest leisure area in the country, most of the boats are independant.
The independants fund themselves completely without the backup of a huge donation engine. The crews generally do most of the boat maintenance themselves and then go and shake a tin in the highstreet, switching into callout mode 24/7 immediately when required.
Certainly around the Solent, busiest leisure area in the country, most of the boats are independant.
reginaldon
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Is there a difference between call-outs and launches - I suspect so.
sailorman
Well-Known Member
Re: You\'ve hit the nail on the head...
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Extract below from ybw news item on RNLI
Poole were not the only ones to have a busy year, with call-outs being up 8% all over the country. Notable increases happened in Dover, whose call-outs rose by 75%, and Walmer and Hastings, who were up by 50% from 2004. Martyn Smith, RNLI divisional inspector, said increases reflected a rise in numbers of people taking part in leisure activities such as kite surfing, jet skiing and diving.
So it would appear that a lot of the apparent growth in call outs is due to non boating activities. I do not regard jet skiing as a form of boating!
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Search and rescue statistics published by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) show that 2005 was its busiest year on record. RNLI lifeboats launched - an 8 per cent increase nationally.
More significantly, launches in the south west of England and Wales more than doubled this trend and have increased 16% and 15% respectively.
Michael Vlasto, RNLI Operations Director comments:
'Considering that 68 per cent of the people we rescued last year were rescued from pleasure craft1, it's no surprise that the busiest coastal RNLI lifeboat station is once again Poole, in the south, with 147 launches listed. The volunteer crews there rescued 145 people in distress.
Approximately 451,000 boats (over 2.5 m) are kept in the UK and 90,000 UK-owned boats are kept abroad. The number of foreign owned boats kept in the UK is estimated at 16,000. A British Marine Federation survey amongst 6,000 people in the general population established that the true UK participation figure is approximately 3.5 million people, aged 16 and over.
Yachting Monthly, 20 February 2006
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Extract below from ybw news item on RNLI
Poole were not the only ones to have a busy year, with call-outs being up 8% all over the country. Notable increases happened in Dover, whose call-outs rose by 75%, and Walmer and Hastings, who were up by 50% from 2004. Martyn Smith, RNLI divisional inspector, said increases reflected a rise in numbers of people taking part in leisure activities such as kite surfing, jet skiing and diving.
So it would appear that a lot of the apparent growth in call outs is due to non boating activities. I do not regard jet skiing as a form of boating!
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Search and rescue statistics published by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) show that 2005 was its busiest year on record. RNLI lifeboats launched - an 8 per cent increase nationally.
More significantly, launches in the south west of England and Wales more than doubled this trend and have increased 16% and 15% respectively.
Michael Vlasto, RNLI Operations Director comments:
'Considering that 68 per cent of the people we rescued last year were rescued from pleasure craft1, it's no surprise that the busiest coastal RNLI lifeboat station is once again Poole, in the south, with 147 launches listed. The volunteer crews there rescued 145 people in distress.
Approximately 451,000 boats (over 2.5 m) are kept in the UK and 90,000 UK-owned boats are kept abroad. The number of foreign owned boats kept in the UK is estimated at 16,000. A British Marine Federation survey amongst 6,000 people in the general population established that the true UK participation figure is approximately 3.5 million people, aged 16 and over.
Yachting Monthly, 20 February 2006