"Build Quality" - What is it?

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BruceK said:
Here is a link to 98 photographs that tell a much bigger story.

http://s161.photobucket.com/user/brucekennedy/library/Bavaria?sort=3&page=1

slideshow http://s161.photobucket.com/user/brucekennedy/slideshow/Bavaria


I'd have liked to post up a few, but it turns out there are too many, so I will leave that up to DOAN

DOAN, click on a photo, on the right you will see IMG, copy and paste the contents of the IMG box into the response here in the forum to attach the picture.
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Thanks for posting the links.

Don't disagree that there are a number of items which need addressing but personally I am not sure it is enough to hand back the boat. I understand that Doan has only had 10 hours use but also understand that the dealer/Bavaria have offered to repair the issues identified.

The photos seem to me to focus on,
Water ingress to coupe
Inner grid de-laminating
Quality of fixings/installation in certain areas

I wouldn't want anyone to use the boat with the grid de-laminating as that would risk the integrity of the hull, but I haven't seen anything that suggests there is no reason why the boat can't be restored to an as new condition in fairly quick time. Unfortunately I have seen a lot worse across a range of products including 'high' quality, high price point items but the positive message is that two weeks later you wouldn't have known they weren't brand new.

Not sticking up for Bavaria at all, the photos show poor control and it fly's in the face of everything Bavaria say about their production engineering skills and controls.

The only balance I can offer is that none of our three Bavaria's have show any of the issues Doan is suffering from.
 
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I cant comment on the photos other than some of the finish to my inexpert eye seems a bit haphazard when it's not in plain view. Just trying to help him tell his story. I hope he can post the pics he now wants to tell it.
 
Re: "Build Quality" - What is it?

Doan,

Can I suggest you start a new thread as the discussion is now running across a couple of original threads and it's a bit disjointed.

It will be easier for people to follow and provide advice
 
Re: "Build Quality" - What was it?

Did Happy 1 a former poster on this forum have one of these.
He took me out for a quick run on the boat.
First impression was how amazingly fast the boat was and how stable it was in high speed turns and when cutting through wash.
Second impression was that it was not an over engineered boat regards external build quality,the construction glass sliding door to cabin was very flimsy indeed.
IMHO.
 
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Whitelighter said:
Forgive me Spannerman,

But on the subject of cored hulls I understood windy cite their topsides and decks with divynicell.
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It obviously works as a construction technique, its just the scale, when I saw the size of the empty hull moulding on the 95 and how thin and flexible the topsides were I just wonder how much the hull flexes longitudinally even accounting for the rigidity supplied by the bulkheads and deck moulding. A Windy is a lot shorter and more rigid and after delivering a few up and down the west coast of Norway I know you can keep the power on when with a lot of other boats you are slowing down, they really have got the balance spot on as they never slam they just seem to leap effortlessly from one wave top to the next, maybe its because you can keep the speed up they don't crash down into the trough, they truly are the greyhound of the sea IMHO.
Windy and Botnia Targa and Paragon are the boats I'd want to be in when it gets rough, Targa defy all logic with that bluff bow, but it just skates over 1 metre waves at 30kts+ almost like you were riding on air, the slam never comes. And the Paragon is a surgeons knife, again driven at speeds over 1 metre waves which would either send most boats airborne with a horrible landing or mean you go back to displacement speed, this just scythes through the waves the closest to a 'hot knife through butter' that I've experienced. All 3 ride in a different way over the same seas but all give you the reassurance that the boat is in its element.
I will never deliberately drive a boat hard through waves as I don't like to mistreat the hull and my back can't take the pounding any more or its a trip to the chiropractor, but these 3 are a definite exception as they magically level the waves out, I am sure there are a few other planing boats that can do this too.
 
Re: "Build Quality" - What is it?

Whitelighter said:
Doan,

Can I suggest you start a new thread as the discussion is now running across a couple of original threads and it's a bit disjointed.

It will be easier for people to follow and provide advice
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Excellant suggestion:encouragement:

Over to you Doan.
 
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