Bringing boat back from Ireland to UK.Any taxes due?

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Have found a boat in Eire,(early eighties Powles) that may wish to buy and repariate to UK.Will there be any thing extra to pay( duties) once it comes back here.
Am guessing No!
Plus has anybody done anything similar and can indicate transport costs.Have just been looking a Irish Sea ferry prices,talk about daylight piracy.
All comments welcome.
And NO... $%^&£.... outdrives on this one.:)
 
Fred why are you looking at shipping? What's wrong with motoring it back?

Alwats liked the look of Powles, loads of space and decent hulls, good choice.
 
Fred why are you looking at shipping? What's wrong with motoring it back?


Its miles inland and my maths indicates it will be loads cheaper by truck.

...and thats the closest one.Also fancy a look at a Broom and a Princess down near Brest:(
 
oldgit said:
Have found a boat in Eire,(early eighties Powles) that may wish to buy and repariate to UK.Will there be any thing extra to pay( duties) once it comes back here.
Am guessing No!
Plus has anybody done anything similar and can indicate transport costs.Have just been looking a Irish Sea ferry prices,talk about daylight piracy.
All comments welcome.
And NO... $%^&£.... outdrives on this one.:)
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Definitely no duties, VAT, etc on a private (non business) shipment of boat from Ireland to UK. you don't even have to tell any authority (HMRC or other) that you've done it

I've taken boats on trailers UK/Ireland both directions on ferries over the last 20years and never been asked anything
 
jfm said:
Definitely no duties, VAT, etc on a private (non business) shipment of boat from Ireland to UK. you don't even have to tell any authority (HMRC or other) that you've done it
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With respect in 1982 I brought a boat back from S Ireland to the UK, and down the Ship Canal to Manchester. Although I was in business it had nothing to do with boats.
Anyway I had an un-expected VAT inspection and at the end of the visit the inspector asked if I had an interest in boats, FORTUNATLY I had declared it when I brought it into the country and kept the paperwork.
It then transpired that this VAT inspector had been brought up to Manchester from a well known southern port/marina specifically due to his knowledge of boats and VAT on boats.
It isn't the fact that you are bringing the boat in from Ireland that matters its where it was previously and whether VAT was paid on it.
My present boat was built in France in 1986 and I have the receipt showing VAT was paid on it, otherwise I would not have bought it.
 
Jim@sea said:
With respect in 1982 I brought a boat back from S Ireland to the UK, and down the Ship Canal to Manchester. Although I was in business it had nothing to do with boats.
Anyway I had an un-expected VAT inspection and at the end of the visit the inspector asked if I had an interest in boats, FORTUNATLY I had declared it when I brought it into the country and kept the paperwork.
It then transpired that this VAT inspector had been brought up to Manchester from a well known southern port/marina specifically due to his knowledge of boats and VAT on boats.
It isn't the fact that you are bringing the boat in from Ireland that matters its where it was previously and whether VAT was paid on it.
My present boat was built in France in 1986 and I have the receipt showing VAT was paid on it, otherwise I would not have bought it.
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With respect, all that is largely irrelevant. If you bought the boat from a private EU resident then there are no VAT issues unless there is something in the history of the boat that suggests it might have been out of the EU and privately imported. Your private boat is unconnected with your business and its VAT registration. I expect he was just fishing to see if you had tried to buy a boat in your business and reclaimed the VAT in your return.
 
I was under the impression that any vessel built before 1984 was of no interest to the VAT man.

As per jfm, I have moved boats both ways by water and by ferry and never been asked/challenged for anything.
 
Tranona said:
With respect, all that is largely irrelevant. If you bought the boat from a private EU resident then there are no VAT issues unless there is something in the history of the boat that suggests it might have been out of the EU and privately imported. Your private boat is unconnected with your business and its VAT registration. I expect he was just fishing to see if you had tried to buy a boat in your business and reclaimed the VAT in your return.
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Correct. If you were moving a private boat from Ireland to uk the manchester vatman couldn't have taxed the transaction/importation no matter how bad a mood he was in. Even if it had been smuggled into France, or Ireland, in its previous history, there is no UK VAT charge when it moves Ireland ---> UK.

He was likely on a fishing trip as you say tranona
 
"Can leave her in if your interested. It's only a short hop to your neck of the woods."

Thanks for offer,but business has been really rubbish this year and my "Bank of the Biscuit Tin PLC " will def. not run to P35,most likely to end up with something in the Broom Sedan,Powles or P37 price bracket.Much of the above stuff of interest is ashore so hull easy to see.
 
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Tranona said:
With respect, all that is largely irrelevant. If you bought the boat from a private EU resident then there are no VAT issues unless there is something in the history of the boat that suggests it might have been out of the EU and privately imported. Your private boat is unconnected with your business and its VAT registration. I expect he was just fishing to see if you had tried to buy a boat in your business and reclaimed the VAT in your return.
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The snag was that the boat has been made outside Europe. In 1973 it had been brought to England as a new boat, sold in England a week BEFORE VAT was introduced April 1973,(so no VAT was paid on it) the boat was then taken by the owner outside the UK. I then bought it off him in 1982 still outside the UK and brought it back to the UK, after having it in S Ireland.
This is why I declared it. It wouldent suprise me if every expensive boat sold in the weeks before VAT was introduced was looked at by the VAT as loads of boats were sold in the last few days of pre-VAT.
 
we bought in ireland 10 years ago... and brought her back to the solent as long as VAT has been paid it's okay.. in this case the higher rate of 22%
 
Urgent Sale ...did not move fast enough.

Just been emailed by owner of P37 which we were going to look at...... sold at under £30K.
 
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