bobbobbin rantin !

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I am having one of those Victor Meldrew moments. Why do skippers allow their crew to grab another boats stanchions to lever themselves away having cocked up the approach or departure? I don't mind mistakes, we all make them, but I have drummed into my crew...get a roving fender down or push against the shrouds or the toe rail...never the b****y stanchions.

There now I feel a little better.
 
Yeh! Why do people do that. Even when rafted we will put on a fender step, right by the shrouds for people to pull themselves up, to cross our boat. But they STILL insist on being blind to it and pulling up on the gaurd wire or shroud (sorry I ment stanchion!)

I'm with you on this one.
 
What gets me is people with big boats and unnecessarily high freeboard. We were on the outside of a raft in Bembridge last year, the innermost boat was the size of the Queen Mary, must have been a three foot drop from the toe rail to the pontoon. You try climbing back up that without using the shrouds for handholds. They should be made to carry gangplanks or step ladders at that size.
 
So charter boats with half the crew trying to bend the stantions and one with a boat hook trying to prod through the GRP wouldn't appeal either. Lymington, Sunday evening, private Sunsail charter.
I gave then a gentle encouragement to push the right bits and not to try to harpoon me!
 
Reminded me of a Dufour 40 a couple of years ago in the Victoria Marina in St Peter Port, where the inside boat was about 3 feet away from the pontoon. Two of us tried to pull it closer, but no amount of effort would move it.

Turned out it was aground and learning away from the pontoon!!
 
I rig so many fenders that the boat looks a bit like a balloon seller. No matter how many fenders I put out someone always goes for the stanchions. Must be the way they are taught in sailing schools today.
 
What is so bad about grabbing the shrouds to climb aboard?


If I am not allowed to grab your shrouds or hold your stanchions to cross over a raft then I am pretty much a prisoner on my boat unless I launch my tender to get ashore. This is unless I can sort out my small weakness of not being able to levitate from my deck to yours, I have practised over and over but keep falling flat on my face.

Come on! What AM I allowed to hold on to in order to cross the boats in a raft?
 
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As far as I'm concerned shrouds are the things to use, stanchions and guard wires are not. If shrouds are'nt up to the job as a hand hold then they certainly won't hold up yer mast!
 
Shrouds no problem, and I don't really have a problem with people holding onto stanchions/guard wires when crossing in a raft, as a balancing aid. But, as the original post suggested, using them for leverage is an entirely different matter...
 
Sorry!!!

I thought what the hell is Dogwatch going on about!

ETAP__Owner is silly boy!

for shroud read stanchion! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Fenders would not have helped me earlier this year in Lymington. An 11 odd mtr racing job cocked up his approach to me, crunched my fender holder, crew (wife) attempted to bend all the stanchions then the skipper argued the toss over the price of a replacement fender holder! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
Re: bobbobbin rantin !

Problem solved get a real mans boat an old Gaffer with no stanchions or guard wires, just a 2ins toe rail. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Try what i have seen.

In cowes i once saw a yacht moor up. then after tying up the skipper let go the tension on his wires on the sea side of his yacht. No boat would come near him to moor up. Or just get a highly polished wooden boat and insist that if they must come along side they remove their shoes as to not scratch the varnish....don't laugh this has happened to me
 
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Further to the Lymington Charter boat I encountered: Why would they choose to not have a breast rope across to me at one end - just a line to the buoy? If I hadn't been so cold and left them to it in the evening, I would have asked them to rig a breast rope as well as the line to the buoy. We ended up with one breast rope between the bows, springs and lines fore and aft to the bouys. There wasn’t much wind overnight so I had no reason to complain when I saw it in the morning but I did think it odd when they were doing Day Skipper Courses during their week’s charter.

I have seen this before (and not just with charter boats), which makes me wonder: Why would peeps choose not to have breast ropes?

Sorry if I have drifted a bit


Cheers
 
Sorry to hear of your damage but we always find Lymington entertaining for watching people berth, or should I say trying to berth. However, it does make one busy reporting either to the boat owner or marina the latest incident affecting an unoccupied boat.
 
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and how about having fixed fenders already rigged on the non-finger side too?

[/ QUOTE ]I do! and so does the boat beside me, not that we doubt each other's ability to cock things up but it does make it easy having two "fingers" to bounce off when coming in /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"
 
The problem with having fenders on the non-finger side is that if both boats have them then they can get entangled, with resulting damage to either the fenders or their supports. We've come to an agreement with our pair boat: we only put out fenders once we have arrived. The boat coming in will find either an empty berth or a fendered boat. Once in, we put on fenders. Before leaving, the moving boat removes its fenders, relying on those on the stationary boat. That way we always have fenders between the boats, but never get a tangle.
 
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