boats that are easy to sell?

Birdseye

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Prompted by the Etap owners post below, which boats have posters found esy to sell and which have taken time?

I've sold two boats, both privately. The first was a bilge keel mono, in beautiful nick, but it still took some months to shift. As against that I sold my Prout cat twice (I withdrew from the first deal thanks to SWMBO) both times very quickly and for a good price. Got lots of viewing from just two PBO ads.

I get the impression that older monos, particularly AWBs, are not easy to sell. Is that true - or is it the expensive specialists like the HRs that take time to shift?

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I've never had to sell a boat, I've always been persuaded (with thick wads) to part with my pride and joy. But why is it impossible to sell a perfectly (well nearly) good outboard motor? See "For Sale".

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Perhaps it's significant that you name the maker of the cat, but not the bilge-keeler - a boat by a well known maker will usually shift faster

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Corribee- same day
Evolution 25 8 months
Limbo 6.6 - 2 weeks
Jouet 680 - 8 weeks still fishing.



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I always got carried away when buying a boat and have always paid too much. Sorry anyone with a boat for sale I am not looking to buy one at the moment! As a result I have always sold them at a small loss. Also I have always sold them over the winter and the purchasers have all waited until the beginning of the season before they buy, to save on storage costs I presume.

Halcyon 27 - 4 months
Dehler 34 – 7 months
Jeanneau 44 – 7 months


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It's all down to price, surely. If you ask top market value it is always likely to be harder to get. Offering a good boat at an attractive price widens the market beyond those potential buyers who are looking for your make and model specifically.

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I think there is a large element of fate in selling a boat.
The one that is easy to sell is the one that a particular person is looking for, who happens to see your advert. Only needs that one person to respond.


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It's not really down to price alone, though that has to be realistic. I have looked at many second hand boats over the years, but nearly always ended up buying new. The main reason being that many, if not most, of the second hand boats on the market (especially mobos) are offered in the most dreadful condition. We've looked at too many boats that have obviously been seriously neglected, and you are left wondering, if there has been no care taken at a superficial level, whether or not the more serious issues, such as engine servicing, anode replacement etc, have been neglected as well. I well remember looking at one particular Birchwood TS31 that was so bad, it looked as if it had been vandalised inside.

We're still on our first 'rag' boat, again bought new after looking at many used units (and most had been badly presented), and frankly cannot see us selling it for a number of years, so have no experience of this side of the market. I imagine though. that the same principles apply - a boat that has obviously been used to proper servicing, and lots of tlc will always sell first.

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But that makes the price issue relevent again , doesn't it? If a boat is in need of tlc and the price properly reflects it I believe it will still sell. It's about getting the balance right.

I don't really disagree that price isn't everything, though.

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I think the thinking goes "why is he selling a perfectly good outboard when he's not giving up boating" along with "the last secondhand one I bought cost me more than a new one to repair and was never any good". So buy new and let the dealer worry about breakdowns.
Ring any bells?

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A comment on selling - we tried 2 brokers - the first claimed to be a Sadler specialist. He wanted us to do all sorts of daft things like removing the mice from the mast foot. He did nearly get us a sale but the buyer would only commit if we changed the hull colour from pale blue to red ! After months of this we turned to Ancasta who sold her in a matter of weeks.

From the buyer's side whatever you want to find is like hen's teeth - we searched for months for a Rival - since so few were built, especially of the larger ones, they have rarity value. Of course it won't be the same if we ever come to sell !

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Having had a perfectly good boat on the market for what seemed to be like forever, looking back, it only seems to be a long time, 5 months. Now I have had time to give the sale process some thought, with input from the broker, I have come up with this analysis.

The boat needs to be clean and well presented, empty it of all the junk, empty lockers look bigger than ones full of your old tat. I have looked at boats, and our buyer commented how badly some boats are offered.

It has to be a reasonable price, it’s only worth what someone will pay, however much you have spent in the last year etc.

You must have the boat available for inspection, no good putting it on the market with a broker then taking it away at the weekend!

That’s the scientific bit! The rest is down to luck and I believe it is 50/50.

The person who eventually bought Out To Play was one of the first to see her. The day he put his offer in, someone who was trying to buy her for nothing, went into the broker and admitted he would have gone to the price she sold for, what a Richard Head! I may pay more than I should for some things, but if I see something I want and it is clearly a sensible price, I don't try to be clever, I'd rather own it that miss an opportunity.

The day the deal was completed someone else, who had previously looked and offered silly money came back to the broker.

It's a bit like, as the broker said, "they are like buses, you wait for ages for one, then several come along together!"

The real key is, there has to be someone who wants your boat and can afford it. There seem to be a lot 'fender kickers' or wannabes out there. I'm just glad I did'nt waste any of my own time showing them around Out To Play.



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