Boat show today - what boat is this from?

[markc]

Went to SIBS today, sadly chucking it down but still got the chance to look around loads of boats, from an NC9 through to the 86 Sunseeker. One boat had pretty poor attention to detail with the finishing in lots of places, but here is just one example. So, am I super picky or is this type of finish acceptable? Any guess on the boat?

 

[Seastoke]

Went to SIBS today, sadly chucking it down but still got the chance to look around loads of boats, from an NC9 through to the 86 Sunseeker. One boat had pretty poor attention to detail with the finishing in lots of places, but here is just one example. So, am I super picky or is this type of finish acceptable? Any guess on the boat?

Galeon

 

[Pinnacle]

Urggg. That’s really poor.

 

[burgundyben]

That is inexcusably crap.

 

[MrB]

Went to SIBS today, sadly chucking it down but still got the chance to look around loads of boats, from an NC9 through to the 86 Sunseeker. One boat had pretty poor attention to detail with the finishing in lots of places, but here is just one example. So, am I super picky or is this type of finish acceptable? Any guess on the boat?

I would like to hear your thoughts on the SS 86?

 

[Seastoke]

I would like to hear your thoughts on the SS 86?

Does not the ss86 have flexi teak

 

[markc]

I would like to hear your thoughts on the SS 86?

I liked it. It was one of the few boats I looked at that had high gloss rather than matt woodwork - maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer it. The layout worked well but I always feel the 8 seater dining tables are a little optimistic. From what I saw finish was very good and I liked some of the touches like inlaid leather on the doors and the carrera marble used in the heads. I did think that the side decks were too narrow, accentuated by the waist high bulwarks. Overall far nicer than the bonkers 76 we looked at moored alongside!

FYI terrible teak was not on a Sunseeker or the Galeon, but you'd have paid around £1 million for that shoddy workmanship.

 

[Seastoke]

I liked it. It was one of the few boats I looked at that had high gloss rather than matt woodwork - maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer it. The layout worked well but I always feel the 8 seater dining tables are a little optimistic. From what I saw finish was very good and I liked some of the touches like inlaid leather on the doors and the carrera marble used in the heads. I did think that the side decks were too narrow, accentuated by the waist high bulwarks. Overall far nicer than the bonkers 76 we looked at moored alongside!

FYI terrible teak was not on a Sunseeker or the Galeon, but you'd have paid around £1 million for that shoddy workmanship.

Monty carlo

 

[Portofino]

That’s a deal breaker for me .
Looking @ that every time you passed it or worse from a seat ?
Makes you wonder what other stuffs like - eg out of sight self tapper heaven?

Interestingly once I took a mate to Cannes .
He designs, manufacturers and installs school labs , classrooms,IT suites etc .
All he did ( I asked btw ) was critique the galleys , heads , general internals re the wood fit outs .
Showed me flimsy hinges , poor door edges , crap rebates etc,etc .
Thing is he said it would cost peanuts ( relative to the boat £1M + asking ) to do it better / properly.
On one boat the sales lady was distracted by another punter and when she popped back into the saloon my mate was holding a bit of galley worktop edge that “ accidentally come off in his hand “

How ever one boat he could not fault - the bigger SL ,s
And we did inspect the teak , of all btw .

 

[markc]

On this boat there were lots of cosmetic issues everywhere, from the joint gaps between the galley worktops, misaligned trim, poor finish to interior wood flooring etc. I too could only imagine what other items there were, especially behind the scenes if I was actually looking for them , rather than spending less than 10 minutes on board. I have no idea how it could have been allowed to leave the factory like this, let alone to a boat show. Genuinely sad to say I was on the Fairline stand.

 

[petem]

On this boat there were lots of cosmetic issues everywhere, from the joint gaps between the galley worktops, misaligned trim, poor finish to interior wood flooring etc. I too could only imagine what other items there were, especially behind the scenes if I was actually looking for them , rather than spending less than 10 minutes on board. I have no idea how it could have been allowed to leave the factory like this, let alone to a boat show. Genuinely sad to say I was on the Fairline stand.

Which model Mark?

 

[rubberduck]

I noticed similar on a Sunseeker at Sibs two years ago, they had rushed it to get ready for the show, suspect / hope this is the same, unless every boat on the stand is like it.

 

[markc]

Which model Mark?

It was the Targa 48.

 

[[2068]]

The Targa 43 that I looked at had a few rough spots around the roof frame, and some clumsy mastic work around the windscreen.
But considering it was rushed to complete to get it to the boat show, there was nothing I saw that couldn't be sorted out fairly easily.

 

[MapisM]

suspect / hope this is the same

That's a very legitimate suspcion, because more than likely that shorter plank means that the teak floor was made out of single planks rather than pre-cut panels - as is nowadays the norm in just about every boat, custom big stuff aside.
What I totally don't get is why they ruined also the plank above the shorter one.
Maybe the carpenter hoped to achieve some artistic effect...

 

[petem]

If it was the T48 then there's no excuse as there might be for the T43.

Fairline outsource Teak manufacturing to the same company as the other British boat builders (I believe) who make them using CAD / CNC. I'd think this process would prevent issues like this?

The third plank from the bottom seems to have been cut short but it's even more of mystery why the fourth plank has a notch out of it. I don't understand how this could have occurred.

 

[markc]

If it was the T48 then there's no excusie as there might be for the T43.

Fairline outsource Teak manufacturing to the same company as the other British boat builders (I believe) who make them using CAD / CNC. I'd think this process would prevent issues like this?

The third plank from the bottom seems to have been cut short but it's even more of mystery why the fourth plank has a notch out of it. I don't understand how this could have occurred.

My thinking is that this shouldn't have ended up on the boat, along with the other shoddy finishing I saw, irrespective of how or who made it. If I was buying a new boat yesteday and checking out the brands, Fairline would have definitely been on my list at the start, but most certainly wouldn't have made the cut. For a luxury brand, this is risky strategy because on the one hand they are demanding a premium price, yet they display a poorly finished product. Considering it was day 10 of the show, how come someone from the factory hadn't been down to sort the issues?

 

[MrB]

I liked it. It was one of the few boats I looked at that had high gloss rather than matt woodwork - maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer it. The layout worked well but I always feel the 8 seater dining tables are a little optimistic. From what I saw finish was very good and I liked some of the touches like inlaid leather on the doors and the carrera marble used in the heads. I did think that the side decks were too narrow, accentuated by the waist high bulwarks. Overall far nicer than the bonkers 76 we looked at moored alongside!FYI terrible teak was not on a Sunseeker or the Galeon, but you'd have paid around £1 million for that shoddy workmanship.

Thanks for the reply/review Mark, much appreciated. What made you think the 76 was "Bonkers?" *nothing to do with SS, just interested in valid opinions* I haven't seen a 76 in the flesh!

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

If it was the T48 then there's no excuse as there might be for the T43. Fairline outsource Teak manufacturing to the same company as the other British boat builders (I believe) who make them using CAD / CNC. I'd think this process would prevent issues like this?The third plank from the bottom seems to have been cut short but it's even more of mystery why the fourth plank has a notch out of it. I don't understand how this could have occurred.

That margin board doesn't look like a CNC cut though, and there is a barely-visible joint above the thick strip of mastic to the left of the margin board. At a guess the original margin board has been damaged post installation, cut out and a replacement manually cut and fitted in. It's hard to imagine that the OE supplier would have provided a teak panel that looked like that ex works.

 

[MapisM]

Well spotted, J. The ex-post repair could also be the reason for the notch on the other plank, btw.
Regardless, bringing that stuff to a boat show wasn't a brilliant idea, as this thread proves... :ambivalence: