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We are four Danes who are intending to buy a "Macgregor 65" to cross the Pacific Ocean. Unfortunately the Danish authorities require one to have a IYT Yachtmaster Ocean certificate to sail a boat of this lenght (65 ft) in International waters and we don't have such a certificate, neither will we have time to take it before take-off.

This leads us to two basic questions:

- Do you know if it is possible to register the Macgregor 65 in other countries than the country we live in?

- Do you know countries it would be possible to register the boat and where similar rules does not apply?

Thank you very much in advance
 
Perhaps you should be asking yourselves why the Danish authorities require a certificate ? Could it be that they think it is wise and prudent to ensure that someone on board has (in theory at least!) the knowledge and experience to take a big boat across an even bigger ocean ?

I don't think it is a good idea to "cheat" by registering the vessel in Liechtenstein or the Vatican, in order to escape your national sailing requirements.

What views does your insurance company have on your proposal ? You are risking a lot of money in order to have a wonderful experience; don't spoil the planning by cutting corners. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I sailed on a Macgregor 65 from Hawaii to San Fransisco. They're very lightly built boats - it was fast, not very comfortable at all, leaked badly, and always had the feeling of being on the edge of falling to pieces. It didn't, which was good. And it made it from California to Australia and back again, which was also good. But everything was lightly built and I'd look carefully at how worn out it was before buying one. Well, in fact I wouldn't buy one anyway, but that's just me...

On the registration question, like Sarabande, surely it's not so hard to get a certificate? The equivalent one in the UK takes just a 2/3 hour test which doesn't cost much...
 
Thanks for your help Sarabande and SimonCr.

With regards to the MG65 SimonCr - do you remember which year it was build? (was it with a pilot house?)
 
2- 3 hr test???? I am a Yachtmaster and it took a lot more time than that. The test alone was over 30 hrs on board and was quite demanding, involving night navigation and blind nav(without electronic aids except depth) and many boat handling situations.
 
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The test alone was over 30 hrs on board and was quite demanding,

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You mustn't have been very good if it took you over 30 hours.
 
I suspect the test Wildmail is talking about is a bit more involved that the ICC to which you probably refer. Not even a Day Skipper can be done from scratch in 2-3 hours. A Yachtmaster exam takes place over two days assuming you have the required theory exams/sea time
 
Sorry, yes, as you say, I was thinking Denmark would have a rough equivalent of the ICC - read the original post too quickly.
 
Hello, sorry I don't know the year of build but it wasn't a pilothouse. It was some years ago now, so I doubt that you're looking at the same boat.
 
Correct provided you hold the YM Ocean shorebased completion certificate, and you'll need to have passed the 2 day YM Offshore test first
 
Thanks for all your helpfull postings. We will contact Delreg and ask if we may register a boat in the US despite that we are Danish citizens. Do you know if there are any restrictions - i.e. do we need a Yachtmaster Ocean to fulfil US requirenments (and Insurers requirements) in order to sail in international waters?

Best regards
 
2 Wildmail

These guys do not care what is your qualification, you also do not pay any taxes in US and even do not pay property tax on your boat anythere. As to Insurance, the higher your qualification, the lower your premium, but you can always find proper company, that suits you.
 
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