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hi all

I want to change the bulbs in the cockpit area of my phantom 40 I have seen some on ebay and wondered if anyone could tell me if they are the correct type by clicking on the link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bright-G4...3043144?pt=UK_Light_Bulbs&hash=item45ffb8c748

or this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G4-3-LED-...8313154?pt=UK_Light_Bulbs&hash=item35b4e72242

also can anyone suggest a better product I could use that will fit the bulb I have taken out is a 12v / 10w bulb which I think is called a G4 halogen

thanks shawn
 
The blue halogens fitted then by fairline were ridiculously hot and energy heavy. You are right to swap them for LED. You can either change the bulbs for the ones you've linked to, or swap the entire light unit for the same-sized blues (or whites) made by Hella or Foresti Suardi (both of which are Fairline OEM fit these days)

However, iirc the Fairline light requires the bulb pins to be inserted "straight in", rather than sideways. The second LED unit you linked to, while nicely bright, will therefore not work well. You'd be better finding a bulb with 3 LEDs or 150 ish lumens that is designed to be inserted straight in
 
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Just quick comment,those blue lights always appear so very cold and clinical,we changed ours for a warmer colour which seems to be more natural.
Perhaps its a case of the climate you are using them in ?
 
lanerboy said:
that's a great website thanks for that

jfm I understand what you mean now about the bulb fitting straight in so my linked led bulb will not work correctly I think I need this type of fitment not this actual bulb but that shape is that better

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G4-SMD-50...9661397?pt=UK_Light_Bulbs&hash=item1e81616055
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No you don't want that type, if I'm recalling the light fitting correctly. That one is the same as the 3-LED one you first linked to, in that it must be inserted "sideways" into the light fitting. You want something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pcs-13...ht_Bulbs&var=510135798862&hash=item4ac6f921db
 
jfm said:
No you don't want that type, if I'm recalling the light fitting correctly. That one is the same as the 3-LED one you first linked to, in that it must be inserted "sideways" into the light fitting. You want something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pcs-13...ht_Bulbs&var=510135798862&hash=item4ac6f921db
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I changed most of the G4 halogen bulbs on my boat for LED bulbs recently and I agree that you need to check that the LED bulb does fit into the existing fitting without fouling the lens or the housing. I bought half a dozen different LED bulbs with G4 fittings from my local chandlery, including the 2 shown in the links, and all of them fitted OK. In the end I chose to buy the bulbs with the warmest light and it was surprising how different some of the bulbs were in this respect. So I suggest you buy as many different types as you can find and try them out for size and light quality before you buy dozens of them
 
I looked into replacing mine on my phantom 43 last winter. My recollection is that the fitting is of the 'sideways' type. Ie. like the one in your post #5. I'm not 100% sure but pretty close. I didn't change them as couldn't find a suitable replacement from phillips or osram, etc. Will do it this year though.
 
lanerboy said:
what make of boat do you have would your lights be the same as mine do you know
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lanerboy, I've got a Ferretti so I guess my G4 halogen fittings are not exactly the same as yours. However they look pretty much like any other fitting I've seen. All the same IMHO you've got to offer up any LED bulb to check that it fits before buying a large quantity of them. I was amazed how many different types my local chandlery stocked and as I say I just chose 6 of them that looked as though they might fit. In fact they all fitted and I ended up choosing one on the quality of the light
 
On my Phantom 38, the pins stand away from the glass surface, not parallel with it. This agrees with jfm's observation.

I have heard bad things about some LED lamps without safety circuitry - not sure if that is justa fuse or some current controlling chip, the latter could cause HF noise affecting VHF and other audio equipment. Does anyone have any advice on what to look for, and what marketing nonsense to ignore? I am conscious of the fact that most the cheap ones on Ebay are from China and not CE marked.
 
EugeneR said:
On my Phantom 38, the pins stand away from the glass surface, not parallel with it. This agrees with jfm's observation.

I have heard bad things about some LED lamps without safety circuitry - not sure if that is justa fuse or some current controlling chip, the latter could cause HF noise affecting VHF and other audio equipment. Does anyone have any advice on what to look for, and what marketing nonsense to ignore? I am conscious of the fact that most the cheap ones on Ebay are from China and not CE marked.
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that is a good point Eugene can anyone confirm this
 
lanerboy said:
that is a good point Eugene can anyone confirm this
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Shawn, you should not buy bulbs or any electronics that have not been CE marked by a Western certification body. While the scheme is not perfect, anything that has not been CE marked properly, you should ask yourself why. The comeback on a Chinese supplier is impossible, as are any warranty claims.
 
rafiki_ said:
Shawn, you should not buy bulbs or any electronics that have not been CE marked by a Western certification body. While the scheme is not perfect, anything that has not been CE marked properly, you should ask yourself why. The comeback on a Chinese supplier is impossible, as are any warranty claims.
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thanks Paul I have emailed both the links given to me in the earlier posts to see what they have got

cheers
 
rafiki_ said:
The comeback on a Chinese supplier is impossible, as are any warranty claims.
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Hang on Rafiki! They only cost pennies. No-one's going to make a warranty claim on this level of expenditure. Life is far too short. If they don't work, they go in the bin
 
jfm said:
Hang on Rafiki! They only cost pennies. No-one's going to make a warranty claim on this level of expenditure. Life is far too short. If they don't work, they go in the bin
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JFM, I fully agree, but the potential consequential damages of a "thermal incident" could be significant.
 
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