bloody yachties

[chrisarvor]

please explain to me when i am fishing in stretch of the river crouch today thats 3/4 mile wide and deep right across why do these ars^&*& have to come without exageration 6 inches from our boat and another twit went over my line 15 feet out the back of our boat.
these idiots all 4 sitting along one side looking like the village people on a day out all grinning like the idiots they were.
please explain !!!!!!!!!!!!

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[scarlett]

Sorry but sometimes boats need to go quite close to one bank or the other due to the shallowness of water elsewhere [and they may strangers & be wrong ] or due to something coming the other way.

My laugh is those anglers who my means of a 'thirty metre' black pole want to fish on the other side of the river ! Why don't they go over and do it there? But live and let live.

Is it alright if I give a little toot to let you know I am coming across your line, if I think I have no option?

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[alec]

You have got to think of ways of beating the buggers.

I would suggest very dirty extendable black tyres – that should keep em off. Your side will of course be protected by some canvas or something.

I use this tactic when I want a quiet night against a key or suchlike in a racing area. Also, hoisting about six nappies up the backstay helps to put them off.

There are unexplained things in yachting though. Why is it that people on a boat with the engine running can’t hear each other but the rest of us half a mile away can hear everything ? Great entertainment though.




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[DanTribe]

I agree that it's usually unecessary & another example of " I don't give a toss about other people " attitude.
Not excuses but possible explanations may be :~
1/ They were racing and needed to stay in shallow water to avoid the tide.
2/ You may have been anchored near or on the approach to a racing mark.
3/ They were competing in the Upper Class Twit Of The Year competition.
Try towing a bait box on a long line.

Dan





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[TrueBlue]

Try flying a "diver down" code flag, though I don't suppose many will know it's meaning. Worth a try if you have a set of signal flags.

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[cracksman]

Now theres a strange post.

Advocating the missuse of flags, then critisising those who may not know it's meaning.

But the original post is a good one. Us yatchies are quick to complain about others spoiling our enjoyment. we olso need to think about others



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[FullCircle]

Not wishing to prejudice one way or the other, but if there were 4 people grinning inanely on the side with their feet dangling, then it was almost certainly a yacht in a race, which is an every Wednesday Evening and Sunday Morning occurrence in the Crouch. As suggested elsewhere it is highly likely they were racing for position (does not necessarily excuse behaviour though).
Do I guess you were near the junction of the Crouch and the Roach? Or somewhere in Cliff Reach perhaps? There are racing traffic hotspots where they would possibly be rounding a mark of the course set.
They are unlikely to hit you as they :-
a) are used to racing through the moorings in Burnham
b) it would possibly cause them to lose places, possibly even retire from the race (heaven forfend!)

Take a note of Sail number on the Mainsail (or name on the Stern), and complain to the Club who are running the races, which are all the Burnham based ones. May not get you anywhere, but it is satisfying to have a rant occasionally.

Jim


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[Solitaire]

Try this one for size! This afternoon while returing from a quick trip across to Cowes. Coming down the main channel out of Southampton Water was a large tanker with its usual pilot escort out front. Travelling from East to West was a sail boat (yachtie!), in utter amazment and to the no doubted shock of all around, said yachtie carried on! Despite repeated blasts from the tanker, the fool carried on, and on and on. More blasts from tanker! But no, on and on the fool did come. When I say I watched in amazement - this was a major near miss - I mean amazment! ! would say that the yacht passed the bows of the tanker not more than 20 metres in front of it! How the tanker did not run it down I'll never know. If you can belive this, the helm just seemed oblivious to the fact and even when to pilot boat came and stopped him he just sailed on! I have seen some bizarre things on the water, but this took the biscuit! There is no doubt in my mind that aforsaid yachtie helm firmly belived that he had "right of way" due to being undersail! It really was a truly incrediblie thing to watch and I hope the pilot/HbM boat gave this guy a ticket! Even on posting this some 5 hours after the event, I don't know how that guy and his crew are not a very major statistic!!





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[mirabriani]

Some of these postings are "fueling" the argument in the "red diesel" thread below. United we stand etc
Briani

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[Talbot]

Totally agree with your post. From yopur description the yachtie was obviously stupid. He was not the only one around today. I had a large mobo cross within 20 ft of me at about 25 knots as I approached Portsmouth. People on the flybridge turning to watch the effect on my boat. I had two passengers on the foc'sle sunbathing, who were actually struck by the wave as we submarined our way into the wash. Lucky for the powerboat that I was more interested in making sure my passengers were safe than in getting the name of this w*nker. Why should these few retards (either stinkie or raggie ) be allowed to fuel a growing divide between people who all love boating.

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[Oldhand]

What signals were you showing? Were you anchored, not under command or a vessel engaged in fishing? Perhpas you were dispalying the appropriate shapes for your situation and you would have a proper legal reason to complain. If you weren't showing anything it could be reasonable for a vessel under sail to consider you a motor vessel under way and thus you should have kept out of their way....

I look forward to the response!

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[brianhumber]

Re: Agree as well NM

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[Jeremy_W]

Mirelle, who's in the shipping industry, has suggested elsewhere that the bow wave of a tanker would push the yacht away and prevent the near miss becoming a collision but I don't see many volunteers around ready to test the theory. This doesn't, of course, excuse the behaviour.

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[TrueBlue]

I do try to throw odd ones in from time to time to see what reaction I get. I'd be interested to know what use is made of signal flags in inshore waters nowadays - especially from pleasure users (Assume commercial users would)

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[SteveB_Sigma33]

Not so long ago I was sworn at by two fisherman anchored on the edge of the channel that approaches Port Solent.

The reason being that a fellow raggie was sailing up the channel heading towards the harbour were as I'd just dropped my sails and was heading down the channel to Port Solent.

I was amused that the fishermen were so enraged. Both yachts were obeying the rules of the road and keeping to their sides of the channel. I did look for their lines entering the water and gave them as much room as I could justify whilst allowing space for the over yacht. But the bottom line - What did they expect to happen if they cast their lines into the middle of a busy channel.

What happened to common sense!!!



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[dulcibella]

It's forbidden to fish within 100 yds of PS lock, so they had no business being there.

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[Mr__Max]

To Solitaire

Thats the trouble with you "stink potters" always knocking us "raggies" anyway you should nt be out in the Solent its far to busy this time of year especially when Ive got a boat in Ireland that needs to be in Bristol

date set as 11/12/13 June will let you know if I can "squeeze you in" as crew I seem to have a large Irish contigent that want to come 'along for the crack' and the bilge is filling up with booze !!!

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[Solitaire]

Trust you to raise your head above the parapit! For the last god knows how many years you've been lurking away in the guise of a stinkie and now your a powerboat instructor - oopps did I mean to say that - you go and get all sanctimonious about the fact you gone and bought a 44 ft ketch! Well, I'd better be with you on that trip just so I can see you carve all those stinkies up. Mind you your mobo never used to do more than a few knots anyway!! Nice to hear you filling the hold with contraband though! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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