I was tempted to post something along the lines of donning aqualung and flippers, removing keel, and waiting till she flips over, but that would be insensitive and puerile so I won't.
Apologies for even thinking it! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
If you are asking what bit of string you use to lift you up the mast you can unfurl the main and drop it and use the bit of string that pulls it up..or you can unfurl the bit of rag at the front and drop it down and use that bit if string,,,only trouble is with the front string it may be a bit short if you have a fractional rig..
On the serious side tho if you do go up the mast while you are up there take a close look at the area of mast around the forstay attachment ..if (fractional rig)...I have noticed on a bavaria cracks in the mast around this area /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I think questioning the quality of the rig just because it is a Bavaria with a fractional rig is a bit OTT. They come with Selden spars as standard and as a relatively new Bavaria owner myself I can't fault the rig. Well I can actually as it's a bit stiff and not half as bendy as the Z spars I had on the Beneteau so can't play with it so much!
Nevertheless the criticism just cos it is on a Bav is uncalled for IMHO.
The comment appeared to come from personal experience - it is good practice on ANY boat to check the mast fittings and point stress areas whilst you are up there...
It is either drop the main and use the main halyard AND topping lift to get up there (assuming fractional rig) or an alternatives are:
1) get hoisted up by a crane
2) moor next to something much taller - like a building with balcony - and pull the mast over
3) there must be more ... ?
Thanks Fireball . actually I went aloft to change the anchor light bulb and noticed what appeared to be a stress fracture (2yr old boat) at the forstay fitting point, as you say while up there check everything. the mast was removed and repaired.
I am not suggesting in any way that this was not a " one off " but it happened and experiance is worth sharing imho.
MMM curious, I would have thought that as a Baveria owner you might have welcomed a factual report from informed observation. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I think that this is not a Bavaria issue, but when you have to go up the mast on any boat it is a very good idea to check carefully around all highly stressed areas for cracks. The forestay attachment point on a fractional rig is a very highly stressed area, particularly if a lot of backstay tension is applied.
As for how to climb the mast, with inmast furling it is easiest (assuming you do not have a spinnaker halyard to use) to drop the genoa and use its halyard for the bosuns chair, with the topping lift used as a safety line.
simplest solution:
Tie up next to a boat with a taller mast and go up its mast.
Whilst you are up there, rig a decent topping lift if there is a sheave in the mast that will allow it.
You are also right to be annoyed at the anti-Bav comments. Its your pride and joy, the deck gear and rig are all well specified.
Your bust anemometer is probably also a big name brand!
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There was only one disparaging remark made, that was done very tongue in cheek, that poster renowned for his anti AWB views /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, went on to make constructive suggestions.
Galadriel I have re read all the posts and can only assume you are refering to me .(you could say if the cap fits!) My name is Bill (not that poster)It was not tongue in cheek at all and it was definatly not anti Bav.
you presumed it was my boat. It was not, and the owner did say he would be contacting Bav.
Please excuse my ignorance (it comes with being dyslexic) but what is an "AWB" view?
I am definatly not annoyed with your comments because I believe All are entitled to state thier opinions on the forum no matter how others interpret them.
Dyslexia is as you know is (amongst other things ) a reading difficulty so where does it say I was the owner mmm /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Hope you enjoy my future tongue in cheek posts /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Galadriel was supporting your post - as it was a statement of fact rather than an AWB (another white boat) bash. It matters not whether it was your boat or not - it was a Bav.
Bill, fireball is right I supported your post! This was the one I refered to :
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I was tempted to post something along the lines of donning aqualung and flippers, removing keel, and waiting till she flips over, but that would be insensitive and puerile so I won't.
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You are also right to be annoyed at the anti-Bav comments. Its your pride and joy, the deck gear and rig are all well specified.
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Oh dear, this bav thing is starting to become as serious as racism laws.
ok, I don't like Bavs, send the PC police at once.
Do get a grip people, most long term mono sailors hate cats, does it bother me, not a jot, does it affect how I feel about my pride and pain, not even registering on that one, should I winge and create a situation where people can't say what they like about my boat, no, I find it funny.
Here's another, most, that's right, most jet-skiers (not pwc pc shite) are a right pain and have no idea concerning behaviour and general manners on the water, never mind col-regs. It is the minority that are professional in their approach not the majority as we are being forced to say now on these forums.
Jees. this softly softly scaredy forum is starting to grind!
Well - garden shed bio says he's got a Grand Soleil 39 .. but perhaps he's an ex Bav owner who lost his keel? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Anyway - Softly Softly scaredy forum - more like double standards ... you get all sorts of dodgy pics & links in the lounge that no-one bats an eyelid about ... but when someone says - better check your fittings on your Bav/Ben/Jen someone is up in arms about sweeping statements about the make. .... Actually I'm gonna remove Jen from that and just leave it with Bav'n'Ben cos AFAIK nobody has complained about the Jens for a long time /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Which is just as well, cos I have one!
As for Cats ... well - sorry, but anything with more than one hull is just cos the owner is scared of healing over or sinking! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif