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I have a boat painted in Awlgrip paint, thats has had a small accident with a post. Its got a small scuff that needs touching up.

Does anyone know where you can buy small amounts of the paint, even a touch up set would be ideal.

Thanks for the help.
 
tony198 said:
I have a boat painted in Awlgrip paint, thats has had a small accident with a post. Its got a small scuff that needs touching up.

Does anyone know where you can buy small amounts of the paint, even a touch up set would be ideal.

Thanks for the help.
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I've asked that in the past and was told that small quantities weren't available. The distributor's suggestion was to talk to boat sprayers and ask if they had a bit left over. Didn't seem a cast iron solution to me!
 
Awlgrip don't do touch up sets. The reason is the paint is a professional paint not aimed at DIY'ers. Thus it is not easy to find and you can usually only buy it in trade outlets.

One opton is what was said above...>boat sprayers and ask if they had a bit left over.

Another is find another brand of epoxy paint with the same colour. I have no idea though if it would be compatible. Any paint experts here?
 
Pity you tony198. I too have a couple of scuffs and scratches that need touching up. However they don't even make my obscure blue paint anymore! I'm tempted to go down the mixing halfords touch up paints but it wont be an ideal solution.
 
tony198 said:
I have a boat painted in Awlgrip paint, thats has had a small accident with a post. Its got a small scuff that needs touching up.

Does anyone know where you can buy small amounts of the paint, even a touch up set would be ideal.

Thanks for the help.
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when we had a spray job i kept the spare paint which came in handy for a blow-in job ;)
 
Oh yes they do....

KellysEye said:
Awlgrip don't do touch up sets. The reason is the paint is a professional paint not aimed at DIY'ers. Thus it is not easy to find and you can usually only buy it in trade outlets.

One opton is what was said above...>boat sprayers and ask if they had a bit left over.

Another is find another brand of epoxy paint with the same colour. I have no idea though if it would be compatible. Any paint experts here?
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Well they do for my Awlgrip pained yacht. Try these people in Southampton http://www.marineware.com
but be prepared to pay around £40 for a small touchup bottle + hardener.

FYI my paint dates somewhat and the costs of touch up as you
will see is just ridiculous, so this year I took some old AG paint
to a car paint distributer and got it colour matched. I know it'll
be cellulose or some such but hopefully for the odd scratch or
scuff won't be too noticeable.
 
You'll find it difficult to match, it's not designed to be touched up. Awlcraft 2000 from awlgrip is easier to repair.
I've found that the best way is to keep your repair absolutely as small as possible and tape it off so you don't damage good paintwork, you'll then have a nice new bit with a definite border to the old bit. It's not that noticeable to people who aren't aware of it, it will be to you however having done it.

Awlgrip is, I think, not an epoxy paint it's a linear monourethane, however to me that's just words, whatever, it is horrible to work with requiring differing amounts of thinners, for different temperatures and humidities, you can get quite good results with a sponge brush, practice on something similar before doing the real bit. We used to have it on a super yacht, I was no good at it but my deckhand was great, and he didn't find it easy.

Suspect that car paint wouldn't be a bad alternative if you can't find the right stuff, it's (awlgrip) very expensive if you're buying 500ml quantities of the right stuff, (you'll need the base, the convertor and the thinners, and probably some primer too) and it goes off quite soon once it's been opened (more the convertor than the base), personally I'd not use it on my own boat although it you're fussy about finish it's the best.

If you're boat is nice and shiny and you want to keep it that way I'd be tempted to have it done professionally, if you're doing a repair to see your paintwork through for another couple of years I'd probably see what I could manage with car paint, however that's just me, some people do get good results with touch ups. I'm also mean and don't like idea of spending hundreds on the minimum quantities that used to be available, if you can get a touch up kit as mentioned above then it'd be well worth having a go.
If you do, then try to find a dry (low humidity) day on which to do the final coat.
 
Oh yes, you're not supposed to polish it, as opposed to the awlcraft, but most people do eventually, and it helps in the short term but probably does damage in the long term.
 
Smaller than quarts aren't availble in NA either. I use an airbrush to touch up my Awlgrip, and I haven't noticed that the paint has deteriorated in the 5 years I've been using the same stuff, although on a bigger job it might be noticeable.
 
tony198 said:
I have a boat painted in Awlgrip paint, thats has had a small accident with a post. Its got a small scuff that needs touching up.

Does anyone know where you can buy small amounts of the paint, even a touch up set would be ideal.

Thanks for the help.
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I believe that Awlgrip has been taken over by International Marine Paints, Perhaps you have a word with them to help you out with a small quantity for touching up. You are not saying what is the colour you want to touch up. There are various shades of awlgrip white as well as various shades of every other colour. White will obviously be easier to match. than a deep blue. If the damage to the paintwork is gone down to substrate then you will need to fill in with epoxy based filler, sand down to a fine grade and the touch up. I find that for small jobs a car spray paint is as good as any.
 
Awlgrip touch-up kits

Touch-up kits are available from Marineware, 6 Crosshouse Centre, Crosshouse Rd, Southampton, Hants SO14 5GZ; 023 8033 0208 fax 023 8033 9667
Tim Roden (TimRoden@marineware.com) is very helpful. BUT a pair of VERY small bottles (paint + hardener) costs around £35; the hardener has a shelf life of around 2-4 weeks, because it has been decanted into a small bottle, which has started the going-off process. Consider buying a 1 quart bottle instead, at £82: much longer shelf life since it is a proper sealed can.

Don't bother with thinners; paint on with a brush, then discard it.

Over-paint, then sand with fine wet sandpaper, finishing off by polishing with eg T-cut.

I've had good results with this (and excellent results with the original Awlgrip paint).

Alan Wilson
 
Touch up Awlgrip

KellysEye said:
Awlgrip don't do touch up sets. The reason is the paint is a professional paint not aimed at DIY'ers. Thus it is not easy to find and you can usually only buy it in trade outlets.

One opton is what was said above...>boat sprayers and ask if they had a bit left over.

Another is find another brand of epoxy paint with the same colour. I have no idea though if it would be compatible. Any paint experts here?
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They do. They are very expensive. I contacted them and wont supply individuals only through official stockists e.g. Yachtparts, QAB, Plymouth. Retail price £60

Trouble is they did lots of different whites. Almost impossible to match unless you can send a sample. Others in the "trade" have said you'd do as well with a spray can of cellulose from Halfords!
 
Sorry to open up an old thread but...spoke to the people at Marineware, and they basically said they can do a touch up kit but it was going to be about £50!!

They suggested an alternative using Epifanes polyurethane which they can match in the Awlgrip colours. I had to wait about a week for it to be made but it was only £35 and got a 750ml set.

Better value for money I think :)
 
>for a small touchup bottle + hardener

Awlgrip has three components for the best finish - paint, converter and thinner. If you don't use thinner you won't get a good finish, the paint and converter are very thick. Also make sure you know the percentage mixes required, the percentages for both brush and spray are on the Awlgrip site
 
Kellyseye, yes Awlgrip is a two pack I know. The Epifanes I've is also a two pack. The people at Marineware said it should be fine for small touch up and dinks. And the hardener shouldn't go off if store correctly.
 
Thanks for every ones imput on this topic.. I tried to get hold of Tim from Marineware to discuss an awlgrip touch up on my old Leisure 27.. Only to find that he no longer works for them.. But I did speak to Tony Thakray who was very helpfull.. When he eventually phoned me back :mad:!!! But he can be contacted at tonythackray@marineware.com or 02380 330208 if you need to talk your repair through with some one helpfull.
 
I think you will be hard pressed to buy any amounts over a 1/4ltr if that, as they will not supply to DIY people.
your only hope is to go to a paint shop and ask them if they will order it for you.

I think you would be better off getting a sprayer to do it for you as he will blow in a bigger area than your damaged patch to blend in with the other established colour. He will be able to get hold of the paint too.

bob
 
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