AWBs - all mod cons, but sadly lacking trad cons

[Danny Jo]

As this extract from Papaver's ARC log confirms:

"Still making good progress as winds remain at 25 knots with large sea swell. Of course this means that we spent another night devising clever ways on how not to get thrown across the yacht when trying to sleep. These include jamming as many cushions and seat backs around you as possible or in the rear cabin squeezing in between the liferaft, boxes of cereal and packets of pasta. Another alternative is to find a local mermaid to share your bunk although these are quite scarce and the smell of fish keeps the rest of the crew awake." (Note delusional thoughts induced by lack of sleep.)

Papaver is a Westerly Typhoon, and good and solid as AWBs go. Here are some photos of the interior layout of another Westerly Typhoon. Note that the "aft cabin has a seat and storage unit, plus the double berth tucked under the cockpit floor" but appears to be lacking any arrangement, like a lee cloth, to prevent a person rolling about (or to prevent tool boxes, life rafts, boxes of cereal rolling onto the sleeper).

Some AWBs, of course, do have lee cloths, but the builders appear to believe that an eye fitted with a couple of 12 mm no 8 screws will be enough to support a lee cloth line when the weight of a 15 stone person is thrown against it with some violence. All comes of allowing the first mate to have a say in the choice of boat, I suppose.

 

[Pinnacle]

So what would have been so difficult about getting some lee cloths made up and installing some eye pads with bolts/backing pads, before they set off? Did they think the ARC would only take place in following F3 wind? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[zefender]

Does a Westerly Typhoon qualify as an AWB? The headroom in the rear cabin looks decidedly MABish to me. :-|

 

[Blueboatman]

ok I'll bite on this.
You pays your money to the ARC and its like an mot,see? Safety checks,lots of shiny equipment and safety stuff,lots of boxes ticked...and the prospect of 'seaside assistance' too or at least some landbased backup and regular chatty chats....
This is absolutely perfect for anyone leading a busy and contemporary lifestyle who nevertheless has succeded in allocating time and money to 'do ' the Atlantic in one year :Buy boat(with good resale value,ie AWB),organise crew,mebbe a couple of payers,install big fridge and watermaker for the comforts and off you go.
The years accumulated by many owners just refitting,improving,learning and fine tuning their well known mabs are possibly a thing of the past?

Now I will duck down and anyone out there on their unlimited water and cold beer AWB doing an Atlantic crossing right now but connected via satellite/ whatever to the forums can laugh at me sitting here at a desk in Autumnal London /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[andy_wilson]

Nah

I blame the skipper for not running drill through the hole and bolting them on properly.

Anyway, most Westerlys have lee boards, the seat backs fit in slots. Not as kind if you are thrown against them, but stand a fair chance of restraining a rolling 15 stoner.

 

[Guest]

[ QUOTE ]
ok I'll bite on this.
You pays your money to the ARC and its like an mot,see? Safety checks,lots of shiny equipment and safety stuff,lots of boxes ticked...and the prospect of 'seaside assistance' too or at least some landbased backup and regular chatty chats....
This is absolutely perfect for anyone leading a busy and contemporary lifestyle who nevertheless has succeded in allocating time and money to 'do ' the Atlantic in one year :Buy boat(with good resale value,ie AWB),organise crew,mebbe a couple of payers,install big fridge and watermaker for the comforts and off you go.
The years accumulated by many owners just refitting,improving,learning and fine tuning their well known mabs are possibly a thing of the past?

Now I will duck down and anyone out there on their unlimited water and cold beer AWB doing an Atlantic crossing right now but connected via satellite/ whatever to the forums can laugh at me sitting here at a desk in Autumnal London /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

If I appear to be a bit of a muppet, it could be cos I is one! but would somebody PLEASE! explain to me what the [--word removed--] a M.A.B and an A.W.B. is?

I have asked this question before, but some tosser always starts taking the piss! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Before you start, just remember, there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[BrendanS]

Manky Auld Boat
Average White Boat

 

[Guest]

Ta Mr. B. much appreciated /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[michael_w]

I looked at buying a Typhoon with an eye to an Atlantic circuit and maybe beyond. I ruled her out on the basis of her interior arrangement and a rather weak looking P-bracket.

Why on earth did Westerlys put the access to the aft cabin and the cockpit locker both on port? This left a vast amount of wasted space in the stern. If only they's put the cocpit locker on starboard. The seat in the aft cabin is a bit silly too. No doubt it was some marketing man's suggestion as to "luxury for the ladies" Who is going to sit there?

The saloon berths would have been none too comfortable, aligned as they are with the hull sides rather than the centre line. Having two heads on 37' of length is a great waste of space too.

Shame as the hull shape suggested a good cruiser with an useful turn of speed.

No doubt I'll be flamed by Typhoon owners saying they can sleep in the fo'c'sle whilst going upwind in a gale across the Portland Race. Or how suitable the aft cabin is for discussing the finer points of Ugandan Relations.

The P-bracket just looks flimsy.