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So what we call MABs are the AWBs of X years ago... but at what point does an AWB become an MAB? What are the defining characteristics of each?

Which category do old Moodys live in, or Sadlers? How about a brand new Contessa?

Does a renovated MAB become an AWB again?
 
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An AWB is a soap dish that slams in waves and broaches when you bend over to pick up your G&T. Wavelets keep you awake at night slapping against the wide transom, there are a shortage of handholds below so it's like being throw around in a tumble dryer, the motion is always uncomfortable and the bows blow off in a gentle breeze. The hull is so thin you could poke a hole in it with a tooth-brush and an AWB is completely unsuitable for anything other than sitting in a marina to be used as a floating static caravan. - Have I missed anything? - Oh yes, some of the more popular ones have disposable keels. The owners are usually called Henry or Giles and have more money than sense.

A MAB is pokey, dark and cramped below, you have to sleep in the saloon 'cos there are only coffin sized holes called quarterberths if you're lucky. The forecabin has the toilet in it, the bilges are deep and dark, full of as-yet undiscovered life-forms living in an oily, smelly, salty sludge - it leaks but you'll never find the source - the cabin smells of mildew, vinyl and diesel. They are usually single-handed. The cockpit is also tiny with everything close to hand, you can be simultaneously garrotted by the mainsheet and knocked senseless by the low boom. They are heavy and slow and you get wet sailing them because they go through the waves instead of over them. Everything needs constant attention - the cockpit takes forever to drain. The owners look smug for some reason.
 
Baggywrinkle said:
An AWB is a soap dish that slams in waves and broaches when you bend over to pick up your G&T. Wavelets keep you awake at night slapping against the wide transom, there are a shortage of handholds below so it's like being throw around in a tumble dryer, the motion is always uncomfortable and the bows blow off in a gentle breeze. The hull is so thin you could poke a hole in it with a tooth-brush and an AWB is completely unsuitable for anything other than sitting in a marina to be used as a floating static caravan. - Have I missed anything? - Oh yes, some of the more popular ones have disposable keels. The owners are usually called Henry or Giles and have more money than sense.

A MAB is pokey, dark and cramped below, you have to sleep in the saloon 'cos there are only coffin sized holes called quarterberths if you're lucky. The forecabin has the toilet in it, the bilges are deep and dark, full of as-yet undiscovered life-forms living in an oily, smelly, salty sludge - it leaks but you'll never find the source - the cabin smells of mildew, vinyl and diesel. They are usually single-handed. The cockpit is also tiny with everything close to hand, you can be simultaneously garrotted by the mainsheet and knocked senseless by the low boom. They are heavy and slow and you get wet sailing them because they go through the waves instead of over them. Everything needs constant attention - the cockpit takes forever to drain. The owners look smug for some reason.
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Very good! I think I like that even more than my own standard description: http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?257166-Appreciation-of-a-Beneteau&p=2773838#post2773838 :)

Pete
 
So if you have an MAB, give it a thorough scrub, some Fabreze, a coat of paint, optional keel-ectomy and a plastic soapdish and you have an AWB again?
 
Phoenix of Hamble said:
When you can 'smell the boat' on things you've brought home, you've got a MAB.... :D
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:):)

She would need to be wooden for that - they have that certain 'je ne sais quoi' parfum :p

My first ship fitted that bill way back in 1984 - and again as my last one in 1999. :o

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Baggywrinkle said:
An AWB is a soap dish that slams in waves and broaches when you bend over to pick up your G&T. Wavelets keep you awake at night slapping against the wide transom, there are a shortage of handholds below so it's like being throw around in a tumble dryer, the motion is always uncomfortable and the bows blow off in a gentle breeze. The hull is so thin you could poke a hole in it with a tooth-brush and an AWB is completely unsuitable for anything other than sitting in a marina to be used as a floating static caravan. - Have I missed anything? - Oh yes, some of the more popular ones have disposable keels. The owners are usually called Henry or Giles and have more money than sense.

A MAB is pokey, dark and cramped below, you have to sleep in the saloon 'cos there are only coffin sized holes called quarterberths if you're lucky. The forecabin has the toilet in it, the bilges are deep and dark, full of as-yet undiscovered life-forms living in an oily, smelly, salty sludge - it leaks but you'll never find the source - the cabin smells of mildew, vinyl and diesel. They are usually single-handed. The cockpit is also tiny with everything close to hand, you can be simultaneously garrotted by the mainsheet and knocked senseless by the low boom. They are heavy and slow and you get wet sailing them because they go through the waves instead of over them. Everything needs constant attention - the cockpit takes forever to drain. The owners look smug for some reason.
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Very good! You did miss out the fact that, as well as throwing you around like a tumble drier, any half decent AWB will have a tumble drier to replace that ancient concept - the wet locker!
 
OR4751 said:
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She would need to be wooden for that - they have that certain 'je ne sais quoi' parfum :p
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Sadly not so. My plastic boat has resisted the blandishments of detergents, Fabreze, pet pong remover and many other things. Primary Cost Centre can still smell diesel from a leak the was fixed two years ago on me when I get home. Still, it is safer than a boat that smells of Chanel :eek:

The only thing that really did any good is Bio Clean, which got the smell out of the engine bay, but nothing seems to get it out of the cushions or the woodwork.
 
The clue is in the M and the A as in Manky and Average. Any boat can become a MAB if it is aged ( say 10 years) and Manky but it isnt an MAB if its smart and clean. Only Average boats can become AWBs and that inevitably means BenJenBav and now Elan / Polish boats/ Hanse etc. Though I would never want to own one, as someone has already said a new Contessa could not be an AWB, but if not looked after it can become a MAB.

And multihulls by defin ition arent average and so are never AWBs.
 
wotayottie said:
The clue is in the M and the A as in Manky and Average. Any boat can become a MAB if it is aged ( say 10 years) and Manky but it isnt an MAB if its smart and clean. Only Average boats can become AWBs and that inevitably means BenJenBav and now Elan / Polish boats/ Hanse etc. Though I would never want to own one, as someone has already said a new Contessa could not be an AWB, but if not looked after it can become a MAB.

And multihulls by defin ition arent average and so are never AWBs.
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So a dirty BenJenBav with a past history of diesel spillage would become a MAWB?
 
Baggywrinkle said:
An AWB is a soap dish that slams in waves and broaches when you bend over to pick up your G&T. Wavelets keep you awake at night slapping against the wide transom, there are a shortage of handholds below so it's like being throw around in a tumble dryer, the motion is always uncomfortable and the bows blow off in a gentle breeze. The hull is so thin you could poke a hole in it with a tooth-brush and an AWB is completely unsuitable for anything other than sitting in a marina to be used as a floating static caravan. - Have I missed anything? - Oh yes, some of the more popular ones have disposable keels. The owners are usually called Henry or Giles and have more money than sense.

A MAB is pokey, dark and cramped below, you have to sleep in the saloon 'cos there are only coffin sized holes called quarterberths if you're lucky. The forecabin has the toilet in it, the bilges are deep and dark, full of as-yet undiscovered life-forms living in an oily, smelly, salty sludge - it leaks but you'll never find the source - the cabin smells of mildew, vinyl and diesel. They are usually single-handed. The cockpit is also tiny with everything close to hand, you can be simultaneously garrotted by the mainsheet and knocked senseless by the low boom. They are heavy and slow and you get wet sailing them because they go through the waves instead of over them. Everything needs constant attention - the cockpit takes forever to drain. The owners look smug for some reason.
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Oi! I may own an AWB (though craftily painted blue) and my name may be Giles, but I resent the suggestion that I have no sense - I certainly have no money!
 
Baggywrinkle said:
An AWB is a soap dish that slams in waves and broaches when you bend over to pick up your G&T. Wavelets keep you awake at night slapping against the wide transom, there are a shortage of handholds below so it's like being throw around in a tumble dryer, the motion is always uncomfortable and the bows blow off in a gentle breeze. The hull is so thin you could poke a hole in it with a tooth-brush and an AWB is completely unsuitable for anything other than sitting in a marina to be used as a floating static caravan. - Have I missed anything? - Oh yes, some of the more popular ones have disposable keels. The owners are usually called Henry or Giles and have more money than sense.

A MAB is pokey, dark and cramped below, you have to sleep in the saloon 'cos there are only coffin sized holes called quarterberths if you're lucky. The forecabin has the toilet in it, the bilges are deep and dark, full of as-yet undiscovered life-forms living in an oily, smelly, salty sludge - it leaks but you'll never find the source - the cabin smells of mildew, vinyl and diesel. They are usually single-handed. The cockpit is also tiny with everything close to hand, you can be simultaneously garrotted by the mainsheet and knocked senseless by the low boom. They are heavy and slow and you get wet sailing them because they go through the waves instead of over them. Everything needs constant attention - the cockpit takes forever to drain. The owners look smug for some reason.
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Brilliant. Just brilliant. Cant stop laughing lol ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol
 
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