Atlantic 42

[telmate]

I am considering buying an Atlantic 42. Does anyone have an opinion on this type of boat. I see that there has been one for sale for about a year. Is this because Atlantic boats are quite rare in this country or is there a peoblem with the marque?
Views gratefully received.

 

[byron]

Is the one you are looking at called Sea Mouse?

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[telmate]

She is called Shania.
Thanks.

 

[Piers]

A friend of mine is possibly selling his, soon (moving up to a 44). If so, let me know by private e-mail and I'll call him and give him your n n.

Piers du Pre
MBM Cruising Club enthusiast
www.dupre.co.uk

 

[telmate]

Thanks Piers. Have sent a private message.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

There's nothing wrong with Atlantics. I've been drooling over them for years. They're Bennett designed hulls fitted out in the UK by Beaux Bateaux to a specification by a well known Dutch distibutor called Holland Boat and sold thru' local dealers such as Val Wyatt on the Thames. The interiors are extremely stylish IMHO and the boat is constructed to a higher quality level than mass market builders acheive, hence the high new prices
If you're into the aft cabin/aft helm concept, the only real competitors are Broom who build to a similar quality level as Atlantic but the finish inside is more functional. However, unlike Broom who have been established in the market for years, Atlantic have been selling in the UK for less than 10 years and, therefore, there is less of a ready market for used ones, especially given the high prices. Go take a look at a Broom 415 for a direct comparison

 

[telmate]

Mike,
Thanks for your reply. I have looked at Brooms and think the Atlantic has the edge from an interior perspective but will take another look.

 

[Guest]

Yes they are a good boat, quite fancy one myself or equivalent Broom, as Mike Finch says the Broom will have the edge in terms of breed and appeal, especially when it comes to sale time in the future.

Paul js.

 

[byron]

look behind the walls ;-)
They aren't as well finished as a Broom. Also I heard they are mostly under powered.

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[Guest]

The one i fancied was a 38 with 306 61 a in would give about 25 knots reputedly, nearly new done less than 100 hours, leather settees etc more nav gear than Oriana, bit of a show piece I think owners lost interest in it, now been sold, was 100k plus vat, not a bad price.
I know what you mean about build though, seen a lot of Birchwoods as well, the factory is 5 miles up the road from here, still a 435 is still in my mind when this ones gone.

Paul js.

 

[kimhollamby]

Note of caution

Not all of the 'Atlantics' in the UK are in fact products of Atlantic (ie from the Dutch yard or from their UK partner at Oundle). Some were mouldings supplied by Colvic and fitted out by others, a process that has now (I think) been stopped.

Factory origin Atlantics are pretty solid in my view, but if you like your internals formed by mouldings rather than timber this is not the boat for you as it is built very much like a Dutch steel boat with lots of wood structure and more drawers than you have drawers to put in them. It's pretty heavy as a result but a 42 with 370s has all the power that hull should carry; it's not a 30-knot design but will do well at a mix of cruising speeds up to low 20s which is very typical of that genre.

Biggest weakness...space around the engines. Shaft alignment is pretty narrow, to aid single-engine running on inland waters amongst other things (five degrees or less on the rudders to hold straight) but that doesn't leave so much room for spanners.

Handling is good but it is a boat that benefits from someone who believes in using the wheel as well as engines to get the best out of it around the marina.

There's a growing fan club over here in the UK and also a solid user base in the Netherlands, helped I think by some excellent aftercare service, even for boats in second ownership. Hope that helps.

Associate Publisher ybw.com websites kim_hollamby@ipcmedia.com

 

[Guest]

Thanks Kim

I know all about room between the engines, come and look at the scratches on my arms etc, Broom 37 is the same, no room at all between the motors, as for the colvic stuff I bet you can spot them a mile off.

Paul js.

Not at the show then ?

 

[lanason]

Re: Engine Room

Is that why Raggies have such small engines ???

and whys its called the engine "room"

 

[miket]

Byron,

Sea Mouse is a Haines 38.

 

[paulineb]

I know Shannia. We used to moor close to her at Penton Hook. Never went inside, but she looked quite impressive on the outside. I believe she was new when she arrived but I never saw her move from the moorings all the time I was there. Don't think I even saw anyone on board - don't know why.

Pxx

 

[telmate]

Thanks to everyone for the very helpful response. I went to view Shannia yesterday morning - she is now moored at Wargrave. Has never been slept on and looks brand new inside. Up for sale at £325k.

 

[paulineb]

I know it's all a matter of taste, but for £325K you could buy a Riva Corsaro (sp) or a Ferretti or the like. It won't be as new but I know which I'd prefer.

Pxx

 

[telmate]

My family would rather I bought a Fairline Phantom 46 or similar (fairly new) but I want to be able to cruise inland as well as at sea. I will definitely buy one or the other within the next month though. The Feretti is lovely. A friend of mine has a Princess 60 and a Farr 50 sailboat which is moored next to a Feretti in Barcelona. Very nice!

 

[byron]

Sounds well over priced to me.

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[miket]

Equivalent Broom would be the 415 OS.

1 year old recently advertised at £275k (I think) with Cat's.

Makes the Atlantic seem a little overpriced?