Asymmetric / cruising chute set-up and rigging on your AWB

[horatio_nelson]

My boat is set up for an asymmetric - halyard, blocks on stern quarters and winches all in place, but I've been wondering about how / where to rig the tack? I have no bowsprit nor any obvious rigging for control lines, the best I can come up with is to use a block and line attached at the bow roller to control the tack, but it will likely foul the pulpit, nav lights - there's no bowsprit or provision for one, so this got me wondering - how do you rig yours?

 

[bedouin]

My boat is set up for an asymmetric - halyard, blocks on stern quarters and winches all in place, but I've been wondering about how / where to rig the tack? I have no bowsprit nor any obvious rigging for control lines, the best I can come up with is to use a block and line attached at the bow roller to control the tack, but it will likely foul the pulpit, nav lights - there's no bowsprit or provision for one, so this got me wondering - how do you rig yours?

I use a 2:1 pulley system shackled down to the bow fitting. That doesn't usually cause problems with the pulpit. I also usually use a "Tacker" that holds the tack close to furled genoa and that gives much better control when sailing off the wind with the tack eased (but I do sometimes worry about the sidewards pull on the furling gear)

 

[BelleSerene]

I had the same problem as you (12m AWB.) I now shackle a block to the end of the bow roller and run the tack line through that (and it comes back to a jammer and the port coach roof winch.)

Yes, the rhum line from that outboard tack block to the halyard spectacle that's almost at the top of the mast would foul the pulpit. But in practice the asymm clew bows way forward (and indeed to windward if you ease the sheet well) on a broad reach, and when I bring the sail in to its tightest 70-80 degrees to the AWA and straighten the clew accordingly down towards its block, it's leaning out to leeward easily sufficiently to clear the pulpit.

 

[lw395]

We rig it outside the pulpit and talk idly about bowsprits.
Rigged to a tack line on the bow roller.
If it's putting any real pressure on the pulpit, I suspect the luff is too tight.
Depends on the cut of the sail of course, but the luff normally has a lot of curve in it.

 

[horatio_nelson]

I think the block and line on the bow roller sounds like the likeliest solution, but I'm wondering about where to route the tack line back to - ideally to be controlled from the cockpit. There's nothing obviously set up on the foredeck or coach roof for leading a line back

 

[Concerto]

This short video is how one person remembers how to set his up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmMadAwDT0U

 

[bobgarrett]

I had my tack attached to the pin holding my anchor until I found the pin had bent under the stress. I now have a loop round the bottom of the forestay until I can get a short pole fitted to ensure the tack is clear of the pulpit. Securing the tack around the actual roller I had not considered but is an interesting idea I might try when the anchor is not on.

 

[horatio_nelson]

I had my tack attached to the pin holding my anchor until I found the pin had bent under the stress. I now have a loop round the bottom of the forestay until I can get a short pole fitted to ensure the tack is clear of the pulpit. Securing the tack around the actual roller I had not considered but is an interesting idea I might try when the anchor is not on.

What kind of "short pole" and how might it be fitted?

 

[westhinder]

What kind of "short pole" and how might it be fitted?

Our port bow roller has been sacrificed and replaced by a ring which holds the bowsprit. The aft end of the bowsprit is attached to the anchorpoint of the removable stay. The front end of the bowsprit extends some 30 cm in front of the pulpit. The tack line runs through the bowsprit and is led back through a fairlead and organisers over the coachroof straight to a stopper and winch in the cockpit. Works well.

 

[Martin&Rene]

I just run the tack line through some of the stanchion bullseyes and pulleys of the type that are normally used for the jib furling line and run it down the other side of the yacht to the furling line. I have a pulley mounted on the toerail by the cockpit so I can lead the tack line back up to the cabin top winch that would normally be used for my self tacking jib. When it is not in use, the tack line is coiled up and hung on one of the Barton stanchion cleats mounted onthe pushpit stanchion.

 

[DJE]

I drilled a hole in one side plate of the bow roller fitting, shackled a turning block to that and ran the line back over the cabin top to a stopper by the halward winch. The tuning block was normally shackled to a strong point on the foredeck and used as a pole foreguy or boom preventer but fitted with a halyard shackle so that it could be moved forward easily to act as the tack line. The raked pulpit on the Sadler allowed the tack line to come up well behind the nav light.

 

[Kwik Decision]

I drilled a hole in one side plate of the bow roller fitting, shackled a turning block to that and ran the line back over the cabin top to a stopper by the halward winch. The tuning block was normally shackled to a strong point on the foredeck and used as a pole foreguy or boom preventer but fitted with a halyard shackle so that it could be moved forward easily to act as the tack line. The raked pulpit on the Sadler allowed the tack line to come up well behind the nav light

I can't help thinking that sounds rather complicated. We just run our tack line from a clutch on the coach roof, through a spare pulley on the deck organiser, across the cabin top and foredeck, and then round (under) the bow roller, and out through the middle of the pulpit, like yours. I haven't tripped over it yet.......

 

[markhomer]

selden bowsprit , stowed on stanchions , when deployed , ring fits ontop of port bow roller sheave with drop nose pin , other end clips to d ring on deck , tack line pass through pole and led back to clutch and winch on cabin roof , temp use 2nd reef clutch , aint going to need 2nd reef and tackline same time !!!

 

[Martin_J]

Link here to photodog's Selden Bowsprit install...
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?206349-Selden-Bowsprit-Install