jimi
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Is this an intrusion into their right to die?
Asking crew not to smoke
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Judders
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My boat. My rules.
flaming
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My air, my rules.
Sans Bateau
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Asking crew not to smoke
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Wrong! TELL them not to smoke. Last time I had a smoker on board I let him smoke at the aft end of the cockpit, got fag ash all over the suger scoop!
Bar steward that younger brother of mine! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Asking crew not to smoke
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Wrong! TELL them not to smoke. Last time I had a smoker on board I let him smoke at the aft end of the cockpit, got fag ash all over the suger scoop!
Bar steward that younger brother of mine! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
FullCircle
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Grr, Grr, Gnash, Spittle, Grr, Rassum Fassum, Grr, Grr.
The Lab Beagle who owns the other half of our floating thing has at least learned to go to the leeward rail for a fag, and takes her smelly co conspirators with her. They have yet to learn how to avoid ash on the transom.......
To answer the question, I wouldn't not invite someone on board knowing their predilection to becoming a cancer statistic, but do insist that I am not unduly inconvenienced by it.
More tax they are paying, the less pension they will be collecting, so it has some balance.
The Lab Beagle who owns the other half of our floating thing has at least learned to go to the leeward rail for a fag, and takes her smelly co conspirators with her. They have yet to learn how to avoid ash on the transom.......
To answer the question, I wouldn't not invite someone on board knowing their predilection to becoming a cancer statistic, but do insist that I am not unduly inconvenienced by it.
More tax they are paying, the less pension they will be collecting, so it has some balance.
duncan
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Asking crew ....
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shurely som'at wrong here.......... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
image of Sgt Wilson..........."I say, would you mind terribly.........."
Asking crew ....
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shurely som'at wrong here.......... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
image of Sgt Wilson..........."I say, would you mind terribly.........."
Lakesailor
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Take your air off my boat.
jimi
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aye, but they're usually bigger than me!
PuffTheMagicDragon
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Is this an intrusion into their right to die?
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Anybody who comes on my boat knows that I smoke a pipe. Their choice whether to come along or not.
If I am on someone else's boat and he likes to keep his pet smoke-free, then I am free not to take up up his invitation.
Intrusion would be when someone expects the owner / skipper of a boat to put up with their preferences.
As someone once said, "There is no Law and no God but the Skipper".
Is this an intrusion into their right to die?
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Anybody who comes on my boat knows that I smoke a pipe. Their choice whether to come along or not.
If I am on someone else's boat and he likes to keep his pet smoke-free, then I am free not to take up up his invitation.
Intrusion would be when someone expects the owner / skipper of a boat to put up with their preferences.
As someone once said, "There is no Law and no God but the Skipper".
bobgoode
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Master under God...tell them not to and wait for God to settle the resulting argument.
SoulFireMage
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Having had a previous boat's upholstery holed by fags before now, I'd certainly not want smoking where they could burn stuff. If they can smoke without affecting my boat (hmm...dragging along behind at 15 knots perhaps?) then they are welcome to /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
On the other hand, I may be having a skipper for a couple of days to help me bring her round-and there's an even chance of him being a smoker! So I may have to put up with him smoking INSIDE aaargh!. LOL.
On the other hand, I may be having a skipper for a couple of days to help me bring her round-and there's an even chance of him being a smoker! So I may have to put up with him smoking INSIDE aaargh!. LOL.
stevebirch2002
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I dont ask, I tell! If they smoke then not on my boat!
tcm
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You could tell him that if he dosn't smoke you'll buy him new sails. On second thoughts, nobody would fall for that, would they?
Ariadne
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I just tell em NO SMOKING inside. You may only smoke outside and then only downwind of any non-smoker.
Everyone knows the rules on my boat, never had a problem and never had a refusal for a party.
Tell em what the rules are and stick to them.
Everyone knows the rules on my boat, never had a problem and never had a refusal for a party.
Tell em what the rules are and stick to them.
Stork_III
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Why put up with him smoking. Its your boat, your rules, there are plenty of delivery skippers about if he doesn't like it.
I have smoked for 40 years, I don't smoke in my house, neither would anybody else, I don't smoke in my boat, only above decks, neither would anybody else. I would not smoke on another boat without asking permission first and then only above decks. If permission not given, fine my choice to stay or go. What's the problem.
I have smoked for 40 years, I don't smoke in my house, neither would anybody else, I don't smoke in my boat, only above decks, neither would anybody else. I would not smoke on another boat without asking permission first and then only above decks. If permission not given, fine my choice to stay or go. What's the problem.
Victorious
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I smoke.. sorry.
But I do not smoke in other peoples houses, boats or cars unless they are smokers.
I also dont object to the fact that the sailing club is no smoking thoughout.
I can be forced to abstain for a few hours if i need to... That will do me a little good and save a few bob into the bargain.
I do however reserve the right to smoke on my own boat.
( I will sometimes avoid smoking below deck if theres a non smoker onboard (if i like him/her... (or shes cute)))
I set the rules on my own boat, And anyone who has a problem with that is unlikly to be a welcome guest anyway
Guests, crew, visitors etc are allowed mobile phones on board...if on "silent"..
There is a ships fine of £5 if i HEAR the damb thing ring.
I wish aquatic car parks... errm i mean Marinas would do the same
But I do not smoke in other peoples houses, boats or cars unless they are smokers.
I also dont object to the fact that the sailing club is no smoking thoughout.
I can be forced to abstain for a few hours if i need to... That will do me a little good and save a few bob into the bargain.
I do however reserve the right to smoke on my own boat.
( I will sometimes avoid smoking below deck if theres a non smoker onboard (if i like him/her... (or shes cute)))
I set the rules on my own boat, And anyone who has a problem with that is unlikly to be a welcome guest anyway
Guests, crew, visitors etc are allowed mobile phones on board...if on "silent"..
There is a ships fine of £5 if i HEAR the damb thing ring.
I wish aquatic car parks... errm i mean Marinas would do the same
BrendanS
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A guy I knew some years ago used to charter a yacht every year, same team of 4/5 every year. The one rule was no mobiles on board. One guy was caught using his mobile, and they threw it overboard. Turned out his company was being bought out, and he was then out of contact for 24 hours! Their attitude was if he needed to be in contact, shouldn't have come, as the rule was absolute /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
BlueSkyNick
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if you expect your crew to not smoke, are you prepared to not fart ? Bet they can go without longer than you !
tazzle
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Most smokers are eminently sensible and quite sensitive to expectations - and anyone either obtusely not aware of or deliberately defying their host's wishes should have a question mark against them anyway as suitable crew. My home and boat are both smoking zones - other people's aren't. Where's the problem?
I must just mention a very senior and respected partner of a professional firm we use. When called upon to give his opinion at rather nervous formal meetings about contract disputes, arbitration, litigation - he will carefully take his pipe from his pocket, pull a waste bin to him and carefully knock out the old dottels of tobacco. While still speaking in his careful and considered way, he will delve in his pocket for a penknife, open it and scrape the bowl. He will then pull stem from bowl and check the tar filter. While still delivering his opinion, he will pull an old leather tobacco pouch out and carefully begin filling the pipe, thoughtfully discarding and returning any pieces of 'stem' or woody bits.
By this time every eye around the table is fixed on this pipe. The same thought is going through every head - surely to God he's not going to light it in here?
He will delve into his pockets for his box of Swan Vestas, push the tray out and frown in his discourse as he finds one .... two .... three used matches and carefully drops them in the bin. As he runs his tongue quickly around his lips and brings the mouthpiece up to them you realise he is saying " .... and that is my recommended course of action."
As he returns the unlit pipe to his pocket, you realise you haven't actually heard a word he's said.
He's pulled the same trick three times in my presence so far - and I still wonder if he's actually going to light it
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I must just mention a very senior and respected partner of a professional firm we use. When called upon to give his opinion at rather nervous formal meetings about contract disputes, arbitration, litigation - he will carefully take his pipe from his pocket, pull a waste bin to him and carefully knock out the old dottels of tobacco. While still speaking in his careful and considered way, he will delve in his pocket for a penknife, open it and scrape the bowl. He will then pull stem from bowl and check the tar filter. While still delivering his opinion, he will pull an old leather tobacco pouch out and carefully begin filling the pipe, thoughtfully discarding and returning any pieces of 'stem' or woody bits.
By this time every eye around the table is fixed on this pipe. The same thought is going through every head - surely to God he's not going to light it in here?
He will delve into his pockets for his box of Swan Vestas, push the tray out and frown in his discourse as he finds one .... two .... three used matches and carefully drops them in the bin. As he runs his tongue quickly around his lips and brings the mouthpiece up to them you realise he is saying " .... and that is my recommended course of action."
As he returns the unlit pipe to his pocket, you realise you haven't actually heard a word he's said.
He's pulled the same trick three times in my presence so far - and I still wonder if he's actually going to light it
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TheBoatman
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I'm a smoker - I have never smoked up stairs in my house - I have never smoked below decks on any boat I've sailed/fished on. People know me and if they wish to invite me aboard then they know that I will smoke on deck but not below - their choice!
Peter.
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