Around the world race allows more crew if they are women

[KellysEye]

Teams in this year’s event, which sets off from Alicante, Spain, on October 22, are being given incentives to employ women. Crews may number no more than seven if they are all male, but can expand to nine if they include two women and 10 if the gender split is equal. This lets them sleep longer and gives an advantage when manoeuvring the boat.

Caffari said she knew of women who had been offered cut-rate pay for the eight-month race or even only their travel costs. A junior crew member can usually expect to be paid around £4,000 a month, rising to £22,000 for a skipper.

 

[RichardS]

Teams in this year’s event, which sets off from Alicante, Spain, on October 22, are being given incentives to employ women. Crews may number no more than seven if they are all male, but can expand to nine if they include two women and 10 if the gender split is equal. This lets them sleep longer and gives an advantage when manoeuvring the boat.

Seems fair enough to me. Ocean sailing is a very physical experience so probably better suited to men, although, as in many areas of activity, some exceptional women do rise to the challenge on equal terms. In many sports, like solo sailing or tennis or boxing it's difficult to level the playing field and allow equitable joint participation without making a mockery of the sport itself. It sounds as if team endurance sailing might have found a workable solution.

Richard

 

[Wandering Star]

Caffari said she knew of women who had been offered cut-rate pay for the eight-month race or even only their travel costs. A junior crew member can usually expect to be paid around £4,000 a month, rising to £22,000 for a skipper.

Rising to ....... ? And in any case I wish people would pay me anything at all to go sailing. Do the female crew qualify for maternity pay/leave if they become preggers during the race?

 

[bedouin]

Teams in this year’s event, which sets off from Alicante, Spain, on October 22, are being given incentives to employ women. Crews may number no more than seven if they are all male, but can expand to nine if they include two women and 10 if the gender split is equal. This lets them sleep longer and gives an advantage when manoeuvring the boat.

Caffari said she knew of women who had been offered cut-rate pay for the eight-month race or even only their travel costs. A junior crew member can usually expect to be paid around £4,000 a month, rising to £22,000 for a skipper.

So they can get 2 women for free - that will help with the cooking and cleaning

 

[shaunksb]

Weren't we discussing this last year?

http://www.ybw.com/news-from-yachti...ed-to-encourage-more-top-female-sailors-43114

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?466193-valuing-women&p=5855148&highlight=#post5855148


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[[70521]]

Rising to ....... ? And in any case I wish people would pay me anything at all to go sailing. Do the female crew qualify for maternity pay/leave if they become preggers during the race?

That would depend on their contract of employment. It would also mean it was a mixed crew and the race was longer than the usual nine months that a pregnancy lasts.

 

[jdc]

Seems fair enough to me. Ocean sailing is a very physical experience so probably better suited to men, although, as in many areas of activity, some exceptional women do rise to the challenge on equal terms. In many sports, like solo sailing or tennis or boxing it's difficult to level the playing field and allow equitable joint participation without making a mockery of the sport itself. It sounds as if team endurance sailing might have found a workable solution.

Richard

Ocean Racing is a very physcal experience granted, but just sailing is often rather uneventful! But I agee: it's a very good thing to have mixed crews: in all boats I've sailed the mixture of skills and outlooks has been the better for it. It's simply absurd to assume that less strength automatically means someone has to do more domestic things: forces on sails and ropes are so much greater than the strength of even the strongest man, so one has to use winches and other aids, so for the majority of tasks it comes down as much to thought, stamina and fitness as it ever did to strength. And group-think is dangerous, so more mixed (not necessarily gender) groups often solve challenges better (besides I'm ageing and no way as strong as I used to be but I'm sure I'm still as good as the next man

 

[JumbleDuck]

Teams in this year’s event, which sets off from Alicante, Spain, on October 22, are being given incentives to employ women. Crews may number no more than seven if they are all male, but can expand to nine if they include two women and 10 if the gender split is equal. This lets them sleep longer and gives an advantage when manoeuvring the boat.

Caffari said she knew of women who had been offered cut-rate pay for the eight-month race or even only their travel costs. A junior crew member can usually expect to be paid around £4,000 a month, rising to £22,000 for a skipper.

Does that mean that an all male boat costs at least 6 x £4,000 + 1 x £22,000 - £46,000 per month for eight months, £368,000 in total, to crew? Blimey.

 

[lpdsn]

In inshore races there are jobs that are definitely better suited to women, e.g. pit. No point in carrying a 16 st bloke around the course when someone half his weight can do just as good a job. Off shore racing is more demanding, but then think of the weight of food saved not having to feed said 16 st bloke.

 

[[163233]]

In inshore races there are jobs that are definitely better suited to women, e.g. pit. No point in carrying a 16 st bloke around the course when someone half his weight can do just as good a job. Off shore racing is more demanding, but then think of the weight of food saved not having to feed said 16 st bloke.

Bit sexist that, you get fat women too.

 

[lpdsn]

Bit sexist that, you get fat women too.

Who said anything about fatties?

 

[capnsensible]

Does that mean that an all male boat costs at least 6 x £4,000 + 1 x £22,000 - £46,000 per month for eight months, £368,000 in total, to crew? Blimey.

That's just the race.... Some years ago we spent some time living and working out of Puerto Calero in Lanzarote. During our stay, the Erikson Volvo Race team spent at least a year in work up. Two boats, crews, sailmakers, riggers, engineers, managers. They rented apartments all round the place for staff and families. Leased a restaurant in the port to feed them all. Hired physical trading staff etc etc. A massive investment.

Got top wifi in the marina for the rest of us! That's when I first found this site!