Armchair plan leg 7 Padstow to Newlyn

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This is a leisurely sight seeing trip in our 10m Neptunian Scenery wild life ( no; not the night club kind) and good beer being important ingredients as well as sleeping at anchor/mooring or pontoon at night! 3 Ancient geezers aboard. This April.

leg 1 Preston to Lytham mooring !!
leg 2 to Caernarfon
leg 3 to Porth Dinllaen
Leg 4 to Fishguard
leg 5 to Dale shelf
leg 6 to lundy or Clovelly/Illfracombe
leg 7 to Padstow.
Leg 8 ????

Where next? eventuall destination is 'the Solent'

Getting 'around the corner' from Padstow is the next planning task, in good weather we may fancy the Scillies. Is St Ives a reasonable anchorage in decent conditions? We have Newlyn pencilled in as our next all weather port or Penzance if the tides suit.
Any suggestions for leg 8 please?!
Also looking for a good cruising hand book from Fishguard south ??
 
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St.Ives is ok to anchor outside if its calm, if not happy Padstow to Newlyn is easy in a day.
Helford, Falmouth Fowey are good stops also, it really depends how much time you have to visit the places along the way.
 

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Padstow to Newlyn is do-able if you get the tides off Lands End correct. This means that you have to be off St.Ives an hour before high tide - this means you will have to go against the flood tide off the north Cornish coast!! Not good.

Quite a few boats anchor off St.Ives to catch the ebb around LE, and get the flood to the Lizard, to get into Falmouth on the slack of high tide. Just do-able. Get it wrong off the Lizard, and you will be down to just making headway.

St.Ives is OK in any weather except anything with north in it! If westerly, get in close outside the buoys off the harbour. You can anchor if NW, but it will be lumpy! If easterly, go over to the east side of the bay or go into Hayle - an hour before to an hour after HW.

If you can take the bottom, go into the harbour and if bilge keel, you can pick up some moorings off "Pizza Express", and if fin keel, you can go alongside the quay to dry out.

Newlyn is the quietest, and Penzance can be rolly on the buoys. If any bad weather, go into Newlyn or into the Penzance Wet Dock. Electricity, water and engineering available.
 

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Leg 4 to Fishguard
leg 5 to Dale shelf
leg 6 to lundy or Clovelly/Illfracombe
leg 7 to Padstow.
Leg 8 ????

Where next? eventuall destination is 'the Solent'

Getting 'around the corner' from Padstow is the next planning task, in good weather we may fancy the Scillies. Is St Ives a reasonable anchorage in decent conditions? We have Newlyn pencilled in as our next all weather port or Penzance if the tides suit.
Any suggestions for leg 8 please?!
Also looking for a good cruising hand book from Fishguard south ??
We did Milford Haven to St Ives then on to Falmouth last October as part of a longer passage, see here for the legs. I mentioned to the chap at the marina in MH that I was thinking of going to Padstow and he asked me if I had a pilot (ie a person not a book) which put me off a tad. Reeds says pretty much the same thing IIRC : Padstow's only viable with local knowledge.

St Ives is a nice anchorage in good weather and from there Falmouth is not too far if you can keep up 5 or 6 knots as I guess you can. St Ives is a better bet for getting round Land's End just because it's nearer than Padstow too.

Hth,

Boo2
 

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I've never heard the mention of pilots for going into Padstow before. Many members of our club go there, in particular for the Hobby horse festival on 1st May. I do avoid it on a passage though. Only because it add loads of time. I normally sail in the Bristol channel but recently have sailed Cardiff to Newlyn (and back) a few times to get into different sailing areas.
As far as Newlyn is concerned, you may wish to read:
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301721
It will give you various views, including mine.
Lundy has good beer, a bit of a walk from the anchorage, and I have seen dolphins in the anchorage. Clovelly has good beer right on the harbourside and a little way up the village.
Have a great trip.
Allan
 

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Many thanks guys thats really good info, I need to digest it all.
Entry to Padstow seems to get a bad press but I have read about it in some depth and, in the right weather, with the directons it seems straight forward?
Padstow to Penzance is around 60nm so I suppose do-able if we get an early start.
I need to see how the tides around work out.
Thanks again
 

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I have been into Padstow many times and never had a problem. Arrived one time several hours too early in a good swell, anchored just inside the southerly headland in relatively flat water. Crossing the bar is far less of a problem than the name Doom Bar suggests. I guess that in fresh NW breeze and more it would be problematical but not otherwise. Have done Padstow to Penzance several times, timing based mainly on getting to the harbour when the gates are open.

I have only been to St Ives a couple of times, on both occasions it was very uncomfortable with swell surging right inside the harbour and rolling like crazy at anchor.
 

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I've never heard of a Pilot being needed at Padstow.

St Ives is nice, but its more a "brief stop in great weather" kinda place.

Padstow is a harbour, St Ives is an open bay. Nuff said I think.
 
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