You'll find plenty of volunteers, but more info needed if you want serious help. When are you moving it? Possible dates, bearing in mind weather windows, so people know if they are available. Would you pay airfares and expenses, or are people doing it as a jaunt etc.
Well I think we are a bit short of info. Most folks around her will remember me doing something similar years ago.
Now what about nav aids, or aint there none?? Radar? Sat Nav?? Just how bad are these engines?? Is there one or two! How long since it last moved?? Is the compass fastened down, or rolling about on the floor!!!
Valentina! you are down in your profile "sheet"as a regular with ten posts and no other details. It may help with your credibility, on this site, if you filled us in a bit on your profile. If you tell us what boat ! what engines! what condition the boat is and the details of from where to where, people may be a bit more forthcoming
I've made 8000 posts and my details arnt much more forthcoming either!! But from experience I think we do need to know a bit more...........................................................................................This is from a few years ago. Excuses for those thats wot read it!!
Matts yarn about his trip with Collin led me to remember a voyage I made about three years ago. It was late in the year and me and th-wife had set off from Plymouth for a three day cruise.We decided to go west cos the wind was from the east and it would'nt be as bumpy. To cut a long story short and try to get to the point of the story. The wind stay'd in the east we kept going west and when we ran out of land ( at Lands End ) did a right to keep on the lea shore and finished up in Stourport. (just short of Birmingham). We decided this would be a good place to leave the boat for the winter, and it now being only about 130 miles from home in Lancashire we could use it all winter. Especialy cos there was a lovely friendly club house at the marina. About this point(and some mounths later) in the proceadings. Th-wife decides to go all menopausal on me, so I spent most of the winter on the boat to keep out of the way of the dragon. I got to know many of the river and banana (narrow boat) boaties quite well. One day early spring I was asked if I would help bring a boat back from the Isle of White for the son of one of the banana boaters.
He. Hear in they all thought i'd made it up but honest gospel trueth
The crew was selected on the basis of, who could skip work for a few day's, with banana boat man as captain cos it was his sons boat and anyway I think he'd once been on a ferry. WE plotted course on my boats sat-nav in Stourport. Tied my dinghy on the roof of an ancient merc. (Cos it made a good roof rack) and at four in the morning, five of us squeezed into it for the trip to the Isle of White. It broke down countless times but finaly we ends up a few miles up rive from Cowes. THE BOAT. 56ft, 54 tons ex admiralty liberty boat,previously owned and lived on by a drug adict. Theres an Aga Cooker chuffing away with no chimney cos drug adict has flogged it, the galley was made out of orange boxes whilst drug adict was having a bad trip! the toilet in the corner of the er---saloon was behind a curtain, held up with a washing line. The wheel house is about three feet square and consists of a wheel, gear leaver and a compass, with one screw holding it down. (so you can turn it any way round you fancy). At this time the captain takes command and slowly takes on the roll of captain Blye. Fuel is discussed and we're going to pick some up down river, before setting off for Salcolme some 80-90- miles away (this is the first time this boat has moved since the navy had it). Captain sets off a bit slowly Cos the back end's still tied up and the pontoon's comming with us. It was at this point that I started to have slight doubts about this trip!! Off we go down river, the fuel station disapearing a stern. Out into the Solent and the big stew pot on the Aga takes a tumble cos nobody on the boat has been on anything rougher than the Leeds to Liverpool canal. I've been demoted to cabin boy cos I made noises about compasses and fuel and lights and things for a fifteen hour night crossing to Salcolmbe. Anyway happily chugging down the Solent at about eight knots it's noticed that the prop shaft is wearing the stern away and water is comming in, so speed is reduced to six knots, which some what improves the situation. Captain decides to head for Poole and I get instant promotion to pilot cos I've been before and anyway I've got the charts. In poole I head for the fuel barge. Cant remember what the tank held, but we put in about twenty gallons more than full!!. So god knows how we'de have got to Salcolmbe!!! Captain takes the helm Again and trys to remove the rails on an eight ton bouy. Fifty six tons meeting eight tons is quite something!! Off to the chip shop in pool for supper. Captain decides we'll set off for poole around mid night. I point out that I've never been out of Poole at night and with all the lights from cars and street lights it's hard to find the way and in any case this boat wont stop in less than two hundred yards. So lets go now whilst we can still see. Needless to say I'm back in cabin boy mode. Off captain goes totaly ignoring the fair way and heads through the middle of the moorings. Somebody rushes to the bow and franticly waves left and right as the moored craft loom into sight from the pitch black night.We did a circular tour of Poole harbour about three times before comming across the Cherbourg ferry, so captain decides to follow it out of the harbour We've got two micky mouse hand held GPS's neither of which we could get a position out of. Captain did'nt believe in all that rubbish anyway and said " You can go anywhere off a compass" The fact that this one spent most of the time rolling about on the floor and the crew put it back on it's stand in various positions, had little significance.
We plotted a course and captain went to bed. Son's wife is histerical cos she's only been on a canal boat before and it's pitch black, miles out at sea and rolling about a bit. Anyway with captain fast asleep I try to get a bit of order and make this tub a bit more sea worthy. The piece of string holding the steel cable to the rudder got fixed And I tried many times to get the captains son who was the mechanic (and had the tools) to mend the compass. But he had no interest in the compass.
Some time in the middle of the night we got one of the GPS's working and changed course a couple of times till I could see the headland Off Salcolmbe in the early morning gloom. Captain wakes up and announces "there you are. You can go anywhere off a compass". By this time I've been up most of the night. the choice for sleeping was in the fore cabin with the sons wife and the Aga Cooker filling the place with smoke and not much heat or the aft cabin filled with rubbish and spare parts and freezing cold. The captain slept in the engine room which was the cleanest and warmest place on the boat. I started grumbling about breakfast and a cup of tea would be nice, About an hour later it arrived, Raw sausage butties and luke warm tea. Salcolme. Hunt round for a stove to replace the Aga. One of the crew comes back with a second hand primos. then off to the yatch club for shower and food.
Three am. and captain's ready for off. Points UP river and declares " there's the lights it's easy" I go opposite way over the bar and out to sea. Captain takes over cos I'm grumbling Again cos all the smoke from the Aga is blowing into the wheel house and I cant see the channel and cant breath either. We leave him in there for a couple of hours to stew. Meanwill the crews got the primos in the saloon. and are trying to light it with the petrol for my out board. Flames five foot high and rolling about the floor.
We're heading for Falmouth. Lets say it was 70deg. With the Edistone lighthouse half way across. Son and wife have had enough of miles out at sea so captain takes the scenic route around the coast. this is ok but at five-six knot's it doubles the journey time. In the mean time back at the ranch. The sea's built up to a good force six/seven and the coast is disapearing in the rain. The captain is telling the crew to steer 70deg. This might have been ok from Salcolmbe but we're now somewhere off looe!! No way can I tell him he's wrong and the crew dont know any better. We're now heading for the rocks between Fowey and Falmouth with a big following sea. When they came into view. Captain and his now first mate ( Cos he dosent know any better so dos'nt argue) decides that you've got to ease the boat round slowly, (cos they saw it in a film somwhere) and anyway they dont like the look of the big folowing sea. An hour later. the boats still heading for the rocks and the captains still going to ease it round. Things are now getting a bit serious. Captain's wedged in the three foot square wheel house. The rest of the crew are petrifide in the saloon which dos'nt have a door but a ladder and hatch like a submarine.I've had enough, so telling the crew "it's going to bounce a bit I'm through the hatch dodge the waves coming over the deck and get into the wheel house with the captain. the compass is on the floor but there is'nt room to bend down and pick it up. I can see the day marker which is a big red and white tower off Fowey so I know where I'm heading for. Captain's face is now ash white but at least some of the arrAgance has gone. After screaming a bit I get him to put the wheel hard over and give the engine some stick. The boat comes round fine apart from upsetting the crew down in the hold and the chiefe mechanic complaining about the prop shaft. About hundred yards off Fowey the hand held VHF comes into range and Fowey radio asks if we are having trouble getting into harbour. "No" says the captain "we've just been fishing", "Well will you let us know when you're leaving" came the reply. I booked my self into the King of Persia for the night. and caught the train the next morning. The boat did eventualy arrive at Stourport after some arguments with another bouy, a rock, and some mud. And I think Lands End is a bit shorter than it used to be.
This story is purely ficticious and the cast bare no resemblence to any person living or dead and If you've noticed I cant spell!!
I am told the engines need servicing, but are OK. For someone who knows engines, that is.
Radar, but no GPS or compass, which I will buy because I will need a navigational system in any case.
Boat was used as a diving vessel until a few months ago.
She's basic, but will eventually be fitted to my requirements which are live and work afloat.
I am casting around for solutions that are cost effective and practical and will probably be posting regularly in the future with all sorts of questions - and hopefully feedback too.
As a footnote, I publish books and can function with a couple of computers from just about anywhere, hence the "work afloat" thing.
Ok. So first you need the engines serviced. It's not like going down the M! and breaking down!! You have to know it will get there under its own steam, or have a back up. Theres loads of us here that can drive it back and bring hand held instruments. Even a mechanic as well. But we do need to know just what we are facing. A report from a mechanic would help!! A suport fesel of 100, 200 tons would also be very useful should the sit hit the fan!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
If the engines are really dodgy, the alternatives are worth considering. The boat I mentioned really did make the trip with a couple of outboards on the back with a good fuel supply...it's at that point most forumites might back out.
For good reason, but there are other's who would come on the voyage taking that risk in mind, but you have to be upfront and tell them what they have in store. I don't think you'll have much problem getting a team of volunteers to help you bring it back, just tell everyone what you intend, and any doubts you personally have. Good luck, and holler if you do need help. If I'm available, I'd certainly come for the trip, though I'm not a spanner man
So first we need a spanner man to look at the engines and come with us/ them. If then engines can make it, there realy is no problem. Sure that there are loads of folk will help. Eerrm I'm a bit out of the way for this trip!!
I helped my next door neighbour to shift his Palamino 27, from Waltham Abbey down the river Lea, to Bow Lock, thence the Thames to Canvey Island, this boat was pronounced fit for the journey, it took 48 hours, and two fires, police assistance on 4 occasions, and we never got out of sight land once. This one would require a lot more info before I got involved. I note H is backing off as well
Perhaps one solution would be to get the engines serviced and then to pay the mechanic to come on the trip. The cost of the mechanic for say 2 days and a return ticket is a better investment than a professional delivery skipper as there are likely to be enough volunteers to handle the nvigation etc.
Having 2 engines is a good start...provided the fuel supplies are seperate. Sounds like an interesting trip. Paul
Good morning, everyone.
Egnines, according to the survey ( done in Holland, commissioned by me last month)
One engine is fine. One of the cylinders of the other engine needs attention, but the engine is certainly NOT clapped out.
Fuel needs checking, because boat's been laid up for 3 months.
It starts up fine - I was given a short sea trial.
Is it realistic to think of bringing her over for £1000 + fuel ?
I have one person who knows next to nothing about boats, but doesn't mind grafting and learning on the trip - he will definitely be coming as an extra hand (because he is one of my authors).
If you are serious about your enquiry you need to be presenting more facts, where the boat is where you want the boat to go on the Thames. When would you intend to move it, can you put a photograph of the boat on here?
What your survey said about the boat, whats exactly is wrong with the cylinder, you may gets lots of help here, but first of all most will want to analyse the risks and then see how they can be mitigated- a sea going passage with an unknown boat that may be has not gone far in 30 months has inherant risk. mitigating the risk preparing the boat having, a passage plan with a fall back are all things that have to be thought about.