Anybody used an anchor retrieval float to shift foreign chains off your anchor?

prv said:
But if you started lifting the tripping line, perhaps from a dinghy, might it not push the other chains (especially if loosened) down your one and off over the anchor?

I suppose it'd only work if you started while your anchor was still buried, so you'd need to know in advance that there were chains over yours. Not much good once you've already hooked them.

Pete
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You're actually better off to hook their (slackened) chains, lift them up and then use a trip hook or a rope sling to support them from your bow, which will allow you to lower your anchor away and free before dropping their chains back.
 
Well I took a look at the video , and all I can say is best of luck with it .

If I use a tripping I sink it and bring it back to the boat at less no one going to run over it , tidy to it , or steal my fender which have been done before .

My shouting days are over especially somewhere like Greece , I now wait till the next morning and sort it out when I am ready to leave , the only concern is if they leave before you and your not on board and they lift your anchor too .
One thing we all need to remember is we all get it wrong at some point so all the Fxxx and shouting some time only make thing worst .
 
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Bertramdriver said:
If there's one thing that spoils my day it's having to haul other boats chains off my anchor before I can depart. My record so far was Epidavros last summer when a Russian charter flotilla came in and dumped four chains and two anchors over my rode. It took an hour, help from the the harbour master, and the destruction of my windlass to get out. I seem to be fated, and worked out that I get hit one in three times.
So I'm looking for an easier method of getting out and thought about the retrieval ring/ float approach as a way of tipping the chains off the flukes. Anyone with experience?
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The float and ring method is only designed for retrieving an anchor that's free to leave the sea bed,,,,ie on its own and not snagged.
I made one for my father,,,We also found you need quite a lot of hp to enable the rode to pass through the eye.
The other issue is with new generation anchors is if well dug in you maybe liable to damage parts bolted to the bow with the force needed,:sorrow:
 
Artic Warrior said:
The float and ring method is only designed for retrieving an anchor that's free to leave the sea bed,,,,ie on its own and not snagged.
I made one for my father,,,We also found you need quite a lot of hp to enable the rode to pass through the eye.
The other issue is with new generation anchors is if well dug in you maybe liable to damage parts bolted to the bow with the force needed,:sorrow:
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Do you think 900 hp will be enough?
 
Steve C Cronin said:
You cant! That's why I challenge the use of a ring, chum or shackle for this situation in my post below Err, above now I suppose! A Trip Hook or even just a rope sling is the tool for the job with chains OVER yours.

See:-http://www.quickline.us/ultra-trip-hook.aspx

and:-

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We have one like this but another larger one made out of bronze which is more circular and therefore able to accomodate multiple chains. The link shows the M.O. very clearly.
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Wonder of wonders!
I have had something like this lurking a locker since I bought the boat.

Now I know what it is and thanks to the link, how to use it. Perhaps i should anchor near other boats to put it to use, or is that tempting Eris?
 
Gwylan said:
Wonder of wonders!
I have had something like this lurking a locker since I bought the boat.

Now I know what it is and thanks to the link, how to use it. Perhaps i should anchor near other boats to put it to use, or is that tempting Eris?
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It's not a magic solution, just a piece of hardware for you to crash about with whilst not trying to shout abuse at the transgressor
 
Ravi said:
It was inevitable that a thread about "having foreign chains on your anchor" would descend to this. I have been trying to resist making Prince Albert puns for days.
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Crossed chains are just a way of life. Sadly newbies try to make something more of it.
 
Steve C Cronin said:
Not really because the trip line needs to be able to pull the anchor out backwards and the "Foreign" chains would prevent it from lying anywhere else than along the line of your chain.
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How about a tripping line and float on the anchor, and an easily detachable link in the chain.
go out to float in dinghy, haul up anchor, separate from chain, drop loose chain back down without anchor.
Return to boat.
pull your loose chain out from underneath other neighboring anchor chains.
Reattach anchor when you have got it all pulled in.

...Bob's your Uncle.:rolleyes:
 
rustybarge said:
How about a tripping line and float on the anchor, and an easily detachable link in the chain.
go out to float in dinghy, haul up anchor, separate from chain, drop loose chain back down without anchor.
Return to boat.
pull your loose chain out from underneath other neighboring anchor chains.
Reattach anchor when you have got it all pulled in.

...Bob's your Uncle.:rolleyes:
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Trouble with "Easily detachable links" is that they tend to "easily detach" in some vital places. Nobody who cares about the safety of their vessel would deliberately introduce a weak link into their ground tackle. Not when you anchor in some of the places we go to. Madness to introduce such a weakness just to remedy the errors of others. Mostly it will be a charter boat or a flot-ist who is across you. Worse, is when they are on your upwind side and decide to leave before you but then decide to dawdle on the way out and get their keel onto your chain.
 
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Steve C Cronin said:
Trouble with "Easily detachable links" is that they tend to "easily detach" in some vital places. Nobody who cares about the safety of their vessel would deliberately introduce a weak link into their ground tackle. Not when you anchor in some of the places we go to. Madness to introduce such a weakness just to remedy the errors of others. Mostly it will be a charter boat or a flot-ist who is across you. Worse, is when they are on your upwind side and decide to leave before you but then decide to dawdle on the way out and get their keel onto your chain.
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Exactly the issue. But it's not one chain over that's the problem. It's when you have multiples or actual anchors that this string is exploring. Trying to lift multiples is beyond anyone's capability either on deck or in a dinghy and puts massive strain on your windlass. What I was looking for was any tricks or techniques to get the bundle of metal off the bottom so you could start sorting the spaghetti without killing your windlass. Thank god it doesn't happen very often (for me twice in 10 years in the med) but when it does it's traumatic and expensive.
One of the benefits of having a smaller mobo (by med standards) drawing only 1.5m is that we can get into places that larger yachts and charter size mobo's can't. The downside is that we are constantly cursed with the indiscipline, ignorance and arrogance of the flotillas and charter people. Not even lying on the hook is safe, they still get you.
 
Bertramdriver said:
Exactly the issue. But it's not one chain over that's the problem. It's when you have multiples or actual anchors that this string is exploring. Trying to lift multiples is beyond anyone's capability either on deck or in a dinghy and puts massive strain on your windlass. What I was looking for was any tricks or techniques to get the bundle of metal off the bottom so you could start sorting the spaghetti without killing your windlass. Thank god it doesn't happen very often (for me twice in 10 years in the med) but when it does it's traumatic and expensive.
One of the benefits of having a smaller mobo (by med standards) drawing only 1.5m is that we can get into places that larger yachts and charter size mobo's can't. The downside is that we are constantly cursed with the indiscipline, ignorance and arrogance of the flotillas and charter people. Not even lying on the hook is safe, they still get you.
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It only happens to me in Aegina! One large motoryacht last year deliberately dropped his over us just as we were leaving. He rrefused flat to move them and started giving me instructions on how to abuse my windlass and chain by attempting to drag my anchor out sideways from under his chains. F..K him. I won't be going back to Aegina town in a hurry. Awful place.
 
Steve C Cronin said:
It only happens to me in Aegina! One large motoryacht last year deliberately dropped his over us just as we were leaving. He rrefused flat to move them and started giving me instructions on how to abuse my windlass and chain by attempting to drag my anchor out sideways from under his chains. F..K him. I won't be going back to Aegina town in a hurry. Awful place.
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Hi Steve I guess I'm the master of my own misfortune. Aegina is my home port, but the last nasty was Epidavros. Decided that this year we'll give the Ionian a go. Can't be any worse.
 
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