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Have not heard yet, but expect that the RYA will be offering one free ticket to members and discounted tickets for extras.
 

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Because show costs are structured differently and the organisers have to recover their costs from a variety of sources including visitors. If exhibitors had to cover the whole costs the show would not exist. Maybe Flaming will see this thread and give you some real lessons on the economics or putting on shows like this (he worked for the organisers for many years).
 

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Who would buy a new boat, anyway? (Presumably a company who can write it off against tax?)

Plenty of people buy new boats (like me) and value boat shows as part of the process is being able to look at as many as possible. often the show is a clincher for the purchase decision which is why exhibitors pay to display their wares.

Almost impossible for a company to write a boat off against tax unless it is a bona fide commercial operator. Then it is just like any other productive asset and subject to HMRC rules.
 

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Because show costs are structured differently and the organisers have to recover their costs from a variety of sources including visitors. If exhibitors had to cover the whole costs the show would not exist. Maybe Flaming will see this thread and give you some real lessons on the economics or putting on shows like this (he worked for the organisers for many years).
Try the Tesco business model or maybe the one that applies to markets. Including some secondhand boat markets.
 

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Try the Tesco business model or maybe the one that applies to markets. Including some secondhand boat markets.
Just shows how little some people understand the economics of boat shows if they think the pile em high sell em cheap is an appropriate model.

Even the "free" used boat shows have almost disappeared because they are not effective in selling boats.
 

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Plenty of people buy new boats...

Not at the moment they don't. Plenty of people might want to buy a new boat, and maybe order one, but the builders can't get the stuff or the staff they need to build them. It's a strange unprecedented situation. I wonder if this is affecting boat shows. There's not much point exhibiting something that can't be supplied. If the lights start going out in mainland Europe it's going to get much worse.
 
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Not at the moment they don't. Plenty of people might want to buy a new boat, and maybe order one, but the builders can't get the stuff or the staff they need to build them. It's a strange unprecedented situation. I wonder if this is affecting boat shows. There's not much point exhibiting something that can't be supplied. If the lights start going out in mainland Europe it's going to get much worse.


Perhaps time to move production to the U.K. as we still have our own supply of fossil fuel ?
 

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Not at the moment they don't. Plenty of people might want to buy a new boat, and maybe order one, but the builders can't get the stuff or the staff they need to build them. It's a strange unprecedented situation. I wonder if this is affecting boat shows. There's not much point exhibiting something that can't be supplied. If the lights start going out in mainland Europe it's going to get much worse.
Yes, strange times. As I have related elsewhere when I first started looking for my "project", every make of engine was available ex stock, b ut when I wanted to buy early this year, prices had gone up 15% and delivery 3 months+ - actually turned out to be 4 months.

New boats I hear are 2 years+. Bit different from 2015 when I was looking seriously and in April had an email from Bavaria - would I like to help fill a gap in July production. Price was substantially less than originally quoted 3 months earlier. Happy days.

On the original subject of free or reduced coat tickets, serious buyers or potentials have always had access to complimentary tickets. However they are in a tiny minority and most people attend shows as a social activity and not unreasonable that they should pay. From the exhibitors side I can remember looking at the costs of exhibiting and asking whether it was worthwhile and often the decider was fear that others would think we were in trouble if we did not do the show. It was only when London became a joke that we decided it was a waste of money.
 
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