Any other boats similar to the Moody 45 DS?

[Whitelighter]

That don't cost as much? I like the layout, deck saloon and general approach but not the price, £200k maybe but £400k seems a bit ott.

Do any of the more mainstream brand make a similar boat but at more sensible money?

 

[Tranona]

Simple aswer is No - that is why it is £400k! The new Beneteaus and Jeanneaus are similar prices when specced up to Moody standards. If you like the big windows, patio doors and big cockpit then the French catamarans may suit.

 

[jfm]

As Tranona says, no, unfortunately. I like the Moodys very much and I reckon you're following up a good idea here Jez. I've been on both the 45 and 62 and I reckon they're great med boats for having a good time on. Not as hardcore semi-racing machines, obviously. A lot of traditional sailors frown at the big doghouse but if you open your mind to it you see what a fantastic concept it is. When you get these objections it's useful to point out how successful Gliss has been, big doghouse an' all (I've been on Gliss lots; beautiful boat; belongs to a good friend. The doghouse with inside helm is just fantastic when the weather isn't great)

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Rustler 44 but it's a new boat so a little more.

On the other hand, Rustlers keep their value, so perhaps you could spend a little more and treat it as an investment.

Probably hard to buy it though an ISA though!

 

[Whitelighter]

Not bothered by it being an odd ball boat. What I really like is the one level cockpit/saloon with the retractable canopy - not a dingy set of steps down into the saloon (which are a nightmare with a small child).

Which pretty much rules everything else out apart from cats.

That rustler is nice, but it shares the same problem with all the other deck saloons in that they aren't really deck saloons at all, they are normal saloons with a raised coach roof and some bigger windows.

All in al I think the Moody is a great package. have to save up a bit, which is a bit of a shock as coming from power I thought things over this side were a bit cheaper not having to pay for 100ks worth of twin diesel.

Thinking either that or a nice cat.

 

[flaming]

As Tranona says, no, unfortunately. I like the Moodys very much and I reckon you're following up a good idea here Jez. I've been on both the 45 and 62 and I reckon they're great med boats for having a good time on. Not as hardcore semi-racing machines, obviously. A lot of traditional sailors frown at the big doghouse but if you open your mind to it you see what a fantastic concept it is. When you get these objections it's useful to point out how successful Gliss has been, big doghouse an' all (I've been on Gliss lots; beautiful boat; belongs to a good friend. The doghouse with inside helm is just fantastic when the weather isn't great)

It may surprise some, but I really rate the Moodys. Had a test sail on a 45 when it first came out. Stepped aboard with a "what's the point" attitude. Stepped ashore a convert, it really is that good a liveaboard cruiser in my opinion.

Pretty much the only down side was that I'm exactly the wrong height to park it. Too tall to look through the doghouse, not tall enough to see over the top!

 

[Sybarite]

That don't cost as much? I like the layout, deck saloon and general approach but not the price, £200k maybe but £400k seems a bit ott.

Do any of the more mainstream brand make a similar boat but at more sensible money?

There are one-offs in France that have a similar approach.

J-P Brouns designed Globe Troller 40 built in Strongall. It's his personal boat. (Probably about €300k)

http://www.brouns.fr/bateauxcom.htm


Michel Joubert's Sainte Marthe 46 also built in Strongall but a lot more expensive. There is also a 39 footer but a slightly different layout.

http://www.voilesetvoiliers.com/cha...-marthe-46-voilier-exploration-joubert-nivelt

These are expedition style boats where function takes priority over looks.

If the Lottery ever comes good the 46' is currently my first choice.

You'll find them on Google.

 

[jfm]

It may surprise some, but I really rate the Moodys. Had a test sail on a 45 when it first came out. Stepped aboard with a "what's the point" attitude. Stepped ashore a convert, it really is that good a liveaboard cruiser in my opinion.

Pretty much the only down side was that I'm exactly the wrong height to park it. Too tall to look through the doghouse, not tall enough to see over the top!

Glad you like it. I know what you mean about vision, but on the 62 (which I've been on properly; the 45 only at a boat show) you can see pretty well down the side decks both sides. The 62 is a gorgeous boat, esp with the light wood interior rather than the grim (imho) mahogany on Gin n Tonic which is the much photographed hull #1 with the beige hull.

 

[Bajansailor]

The Dufour Atoll 43 seems to be a similar concept to the Moody 45 - however they are no longer in production.
Here is one for sale in Portsmouth - http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Dufour-Atoll-2163515/Portsmouth/United-Kingdom

Yachtworld also has one on the Hamble for sale - http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Dufour-Atoll-43-2185633/Hamble/United-Kingdom

And there is also a 50' version - http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2001/Dufour-Dufour-Atoll-6-2045625/Greece

But I do think that if I had a choice, I would prefer the Moody styling rather than the Atoll.

 

[Resolution]

It may surprise some, but I really rate the Moodys. Had a test sail on a 45 when it first came out. Stepped aboard with a "what's the point" attitude. Stepped ashore a convert, it really is that good a liveaboard cruiser in my opinion.

Pretty much the only down side was that I'm exactly the wrong height to park it. Too tall to look through the doghouse, not tall enough to see over the top!

Flaming
Interested to know what you found so much better than on a "conventional" layout yacht?

And did the high bulwarks make berthing or jumping off with mooring lines noticably more difficult?

 

[flaming]

Flaming
Interested to know what you found so much better than on a "conventional" layout yacht?

And did the high bulwarks make berthing or jumping off with mooring lines noticably more difficult?

Hard to quantify really. But I was just thinking about the sort of cruising I have done with my parents, and thought that the layout would be ideal, as the cockpit is on the same level as the saloon, which generates such a large area to relax in. There are some drawbacks, but overall I could see why it would work, and if I was looking for a liveaboard (as distinct from ocean cruiser I think) and had the cash......

I have to confess I was doing the driving when it came to parking and was concentrating on that since they'd let me loose with their brand new boat, and I'd not parked a boat with twin rudders before, but the line handling was not noticably delayed...

 

[z1ppy]

We also looked at the 45DS at Southampton last year and really liked it! havent seen the 62 in the flesh but sure its even better.

its a bit of a dream at the moment but maybe in 10 years when i dont have to work so hard and could afford more than 2 weeks at a time we would look again!

i guess in terms of numbers sold, the 45ds is pretty low volume and therefore other builders have not jumped on the band wagon. its not to everyones liking for sure but then look at Sealine and their SC range and they are selling pretty well!

 

[Nautorius]

That don't cost as much? I like the layout, deck saloon and general approach but not the price, £200k maybe but £400k seems a bit ott.

Do any of the more mainstream brand make a similar boat but at more sensible money?

Jez,

Another new boat but the Beneteau Sense range is a close compromise as the cockpit to Cabin is only two small steps!

http://www.beneteau.com/Sailing-Yachts/Sense

I also love the Moody but given the price will spend half as much on a 3 year old 42ft Cat!

 

[Sailfree]

The Dufour Atoll 43 seems to be a similar concept to the Moody 45 - however they are no longer in production.

I though the Atoll was build only for the chartermarket and not for live aboards. It maximised double cabin capacity and had the sailing charactoristics of a brick!

PS I like Dufours I had a 36 & a 38 classic

 

[alahol2]

Pretty much the only down side was that I'm exactly the wrong height to park it. Too tall to look through the doghouse, not tall enough to see over the top!

We watched one motor into Newtown last year and whoever was driving was up and down like a whore's drawers. He must have been extremely fit after a couple of hours.

 

[westhinder]

Feeling is working on something similar to the Moody 45 DS. I saw a pre-production boat at a show in October, but haven't heard about it since. Can't say it was beautiful, with topsides that were far too high.

 

[Whitelighter]

I am used to people thinking new designs are unattractive. And they certainly aent overly graceful, but so much moe practical than a lot of traditional 'pretty' things.

Thanks fo the heads up with Feeling, I like Alluira Marine though I suspect it wont be much cheaper than the moody

 

[Whitelighter]

Is this the feeling you meant, or do they have something else in the pipeline?

Looks good, until you realise (as with everything else), it isnt a deck saloon

 

[Twister_Ken]

I can forgive the Muddy 45, which is genuinely innovative. But not that bad Feeling which is just inflated.

 

[Whitelighter]

I agree TK,

Which is perhaps why I am finding it so hard to find any real competition.

Guess its stump up the money if thats what we decide we want