Any Marinas/Moorings available all states of the tide in north west or Wales

[Jaguar 25]

Finding being restricted to 2 hours each side of HW a bit of a pain.

We used to be in Holyhead where you can come and go at any time.

Are there any other places where you can do this? Alternativey significantly better than plus or minus 2 hours.

Regards,

 

[Storyline]

There are deep water moorings on the Menai Straits

 

[TSB240]

Moorings

Suggest that you contact John McDermott at Caernarfon Harbour Trust http://www.caernarfonharbour.co.uk/ as they are are advertising swinging moorings available in the Seiont River(dries) and at Port Dinorwic and Rowan bay (deep water)(both in the Menai Straits and at reasonable rates ) with access to repair facilities & haulout / storage facilities at Dinas Boatyard in Port Dinorwic( you will need a tender to get ashore )

Alternatively Menai Boat club or possibly the Council at Llangefni run all the moorings north of the bridges.Deepwater moorings in the Menai Straits above the bridges are at a premium, as at times are drying moorings, and all moorings there are controlled by the Menai Bridge Piermaster.If available he will allocate you a position , for which there is a charge, and you then put down your own mooring or buy whats there from the previous owner.Ignore anyone who says that they will sell you a mooring position. If you call the Council at Llangefni they will give you Alan Price's telephone numbers.
http://www.anglesey.gov.uk/leisure/m...s?tab=contacts.
I wouldnt recommend a mooring much north of Menai Bridge unless you are prepared for rough overnight sleeps.

Victoria dock has a waiting list hw + or - three hours.

Port Dinorwic may have some space? Ask for Lesley 01248 671500 +/- 3 hours depending on draft. But never a problem as passage planning going south is best just after high tide and allows access to the Lleyn and beyond Caernarfon bar without fighting tides. Passage north through Swellies 2-3 hours before allows an easy run up to Puffin Island and the north coast , Conway and on to IOM, NI or Scotland. You may find a number of Forumites lurking in here.

 

[vyv_cox]

Pwllheli was accessible at any state of tide for many vessels, then it silted badly but I read recently that it has now been dredged.
Conwy and Deganwy are limited to some extent by the access channel but dependent upon draught it is a good deal better than 2 hours either side of HW. Problem there is that the strength of tide is considerable.
A mooring on the Straits is a good option but of course brings its own problems. One of the ones off Port Dinorwic always seem to me to offer some advantages.

 

[savageseadog]

There are few options. I don't know of any all afloat safe moorings in the NW and N Wales for winter. There is the River Alt possibly but you'll dry and still be limited.

 

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Conwy on the river will give you HW +/- 3½ on all tides with a draft <1.8m. If you have the twin keel jag (same draft as my Hunter 27 I kept there) you will have 24 hr access on neaps and HW +/- 4½ on springs.
http://www.caernarfonharbour.co.uk/ shows moorings off PD as available. You can also try Stan Zalot at Gallows Point who might have something.

 

[obmij]

Pwllheli - lovely marina, not much tide and cracking scenery. The drive is a bit of a pain though.

Conwy is closer but as mentioned tide is strong and I worry (perhaps needlessly) about bottoming out in the channel when it gets choppy, and in certain places it can get very choppy.

Dinorwic is nice!

 

[LittleShip]

Holyhead and Pwhelli are the only two marinas around NWales with all states of the tide access. Even if you moor in the Menai Straits you will find that you are still having to push tide and can only get out the ends at certain states of tide. That said you can still get out and play in the canal (Straits).

It is ( for me) the only downside of the area...... Well that and the tidal flows and over falls ..... Oh, and the raiding parties on the fun box.

Tom

 

[Searush]

As Steve (TSB240) says, Rowan bay is VERY sheltered & deep water & there are spaces available, but you still have tidal gates over the bar & thro the Swellies. Much depends on your draft & engine power. Planing craft can transit the Swellies at pretty well any time with a skilled helmsman & shallow draft boats can cross the bar at any time on most tides - but it can be VERY uncomfortable with SW'ly 5+ over the ebb.

Holyhead is the only deep water all tide harbour/ marina until you get to Liverpool, Howth or Douglas & even Holyhead (South & North stacks) & Liverpool have strong tides that the average yacht will struggle to head.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

Finding being restricted to 2 hours each side of HW a bit of a pain.

We used to be in Holyhead where you can come and go at any time.

Are there any other places where you can do this? Alternativey significantly better than plus or minus 2 hours.

Pwllheli is a lot better than +/-2 hours, but it does change from year to year depending on what happens over winter and when dredging has been done. Last summer there was a minimum depth of about 1m at LAT. This was the guide I posted last May for getting in and out at low water, but it may be out of date by next spring...

Ok, Angus's final and definitive guide to creeping into Pwllheli. You can actually find 0.2m more depth than the depth guage shows, like this...

As you come in keep close to the starboard side next to the rocks, but not ridiculously close as they slope below the water at an angle.

When abeam the 5th green pole (including counting the one on the pile of rocks right at the entrance) cross over by heading for the word 'SHOP' on the building on Partington's boatyard. This actually means just head straight on as the river turns to the right here anyway.

Keep going until you are next to the moored boats on the piles and follow these closely leaving them to port, especially near the fishermen's pontoon.

When you are abeam the 5th moored boat from the upstream end of the piles, cross over to the visitors' berths, which are those nearest you.

 

[Pagetslady]

Hi how far north are you prepared to go, Whitehaven is an excellent marina and access is good too, neaps access is almost 24 hr and access through the lock is excellent very quick with pontoon in the lock but I guess it depends how far you are prepared to drive.
Mike