Anti fouling in Sardinia, advice please

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Just considering the anti fouling situation in Cagliari Sardinia.

We are based at Marina St Elmo and although we are happy with the place we know that lift out and antifoul will be expensive, they will not let you enter the yard to DIY.
The adjacent ‘Marina del Sol’ are, I think more willing to let you DIY
Antifoul paint seems very expensive here and I am considering having it sent from UK where I can get the anti foul of my choice much cheaper than here even after courier costs.
has anyone any experience with anti fouling here and are there problems in sending antifoul by courier?
many thanks
 
pcatterall said:
Just considering the anti fouling situation in Cagliari Sardinia.

We are based at Marina St Elmo and although we are happy with the place we know that lift out and antifoul will be expensive, they will not let you enter the yard to DIY.
The adjacent ‘Marina del Sol’ are, I think more willing to let you DIY
Antifoul paint seems very expensive here and I am considering having it sent from UK where I can get the anti foul of my choice much cheaper than here even after courier costs.
has anyone any experience with anti fouling here and are there problems in sending antifoul by courier?
many thanks
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Send a PM to MapisM. He keeps his boat there and would be willing to help I am sure.
 
For the TROPICAL 15ltrs was 278 euros.
This is recommended for wooden and work boats. Let me know the type that you require and I will ask at our local supplier as he gives a good discount.
 
EU45 antifouling cost includes delivery anywhere in Europe. http://www.eu45antifoul.com/index.php. We used it for a season and found it no different from all the other varieties that we have applied over the past ten years.

My info on Sardinia is somewhat dated now, but Castelsardo was remarkably cheap for both berthing and storage ashore. I doubt very much that there would be an objection to owners working on their own boats, as the port is owned by the community.
 
Pinnacle said:
Send a PM to MapisM. He keeps his boat there and would be willing to help I am sure.
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P, actually I'm not so near to Cagliari: it's more than 50NM by sea, due to the need to go round the southernmost part of Sardinia.
Not that it matters a lot, but just to say that I always used a yard much nearer to my home port, and I have no first hand experience on yards/marinas in Cagliari.

Anyway, in reply to the OP (btw, I got your PM, but I thought to follow up here directly), I'm afraid it's rather common that yards don't allow third parties (owners included) to work inside their locations, because they are legally responsible for any accident that might happen as a consequence of activities not carried on by their own employees or sub-contractors.
Of course, you might think that they have good economic reasons for complying with such regulation, which is true, but the regulation indeed exists, and is rather strict.
Otoh, with regard to supplying your own material to the yard (a/f paint, oil, parts, whatever), it's entirely up to the yard to accept that or not, and afaik most yards don't have problems with that, as long as you agree that in advance and any work involved is commissioned to them.
 
vyv_cox said:
I doubt very much that there would be an objection to owners working on their own boats, as the port is owned by the community.
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Yup, that's actually a bit of a special case, 'cause there aren't many marinas directly managed by the municipality, and they are usually meant for small(ish) boats of local residents only - though Castelsardo is indeed an exception, in this respect.
In fact, both marinas mentioned by the OP are privately managed, fwiw.
 
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Most yards prefer to do all of the work themselves unless it is very specialized. Many of them normally allow owners to do their own work (not always worthwhile though) but they invariably object to third parties coming nto the yard. It is true that there are restrictions that are due to safety and liability in the case of possible accidents. However, these are mainly invoked when the work involves the use of scaffolding and work where there is danger of falling from a height. I have been allowed to apply my own antifouling by 'my' yard, even though I did not buy the paint from their store. The reason that I do this is that I get almost 'trade prices' from some chandlers, otherwise the yard's prices are the same as when buying elsewhere.

The paint that I use is Veneziani Raffaello and I have found that it works very well in the Central Mediterranean (Malta). I have been using it for many years, every two years, and I buy it from these people: http://www.ellcee.com/en/products/webshop/57/veneziani-raffaello.htm
I believe that they also do mail order. I don't know how their prices compare with Sardegna. If you contact them, ask to speak with Kenneth, the owner. He is young, knowledgeable and very helpful.
 
PuffTheMagicDragon said:
The paint that I use is Veneziani Raffaello and I have found that it works very well in the Central Mediterranean (Malta).
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I find it (sort of) works here too in the Adriatic - but lying in lagoon waters - reduced salinity and warm water - nothing available to leisure sailors is really effective - I've tried many. The dreaded tube worm is fast-forming and pervasive on any fleck of missing anti-fouling; only space for one needed, the rest pile up on the shell, forming a clump - and somewhere, sometime, such an area will form regardless of how well and thick applied.

I had what I thought was a nod and a wink to obtain some of the commercial stuff at a local fishing-boat suppliers but they sussed me out immediately and wouldn't sell. Back to diving a couple of times through the summer with a scraper while at anchor.
 
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