andy59
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Another bump in the solent https://www.islandecho.co.uk/red-funnel-ferry-collision-off-calshot-results-in-cancellations/
Hope everyone is ok .
Hope everyone is ok .
Another OOPS with ferry
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Some hilarious comments on there.
“...the smaller boat has to get out of the way of a bigger boat...”
“...restricted in manoeuvrability...”
Errm, no, not unless a Red Funnel is 150m and they were in the Precautionary Zone.
I’d be fascinated to hear the account of the Doral owner, of how he managed to hit a large red ferry in good visibility.
“...the smaller boat has to get out of the way of a bigger boat...”
“...restricted in manoeuvrability...”
Errm, no, not unless a Red Funnel is 150m and they were in the Precautionary Zone.
I’d be fascinated to hear the account of the Doral owner, of how he managed to hit a large red ferry in good visibility.
RobBradley
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After completing my sad little PB2 today, how on earth?
Surely the powerboat should have moved?
Or is that a stupid question from the newbie?
Surely the powerboat should have moved?
Or is that a stupid question from the newbie?
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There’s no such thing as a stupid question.
But we really don’t know the detailed circumstances of the incident.
Generally, it doesn’t make sense for a smaller powerboat to try and stand on to a ferry if you can change course well in advance, so that there is no risk of collision.
But we really don’t know the detailed circumstances of the incident.
Generally, it doesn’t make sense for a smaller powerboat to try and stand on to a ferry if you can change course well in advance, so that there is no risk of collision.
RobBradley
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Agreed, more details needed, but its everyones responsibility to avoid a collision, what I cannot understand is why the powerboat did not just get out of the way.
Only things for me, was he anchored? Can you there? Engine trouble? But he limped back.
Needs more... but second Red Funnel incident in how long?
rubberduck
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I had a Doral, tough boats, fortunately in this case.
CLB
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Damage on the port side of the Doral. Looks like it may have been the stand-on vessel.
Firefly625
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I know I'm gonna get shouted at for this.... but ffs stand on to the Red Funnel in a busy Solent in a highly manoeuvrable power boat, obviously others have bigger balls than I!
andy59
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Totally agree James , if I tried standing on to the ferry , no matter what the rules say , Jo would set about me with a fender until we moved from it’s path . She has an aversion to any big ships and I will start getting prodded as soon as they are within view 
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.Andrew M
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Totally with you on that.
rafiki_
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When I did my ICC last year, the trainer was adamant that we in small boats should stick to the rules. His view was that the larger boats have much better visibility, and their watch is very aware of other traffic. If we in small boats make course changes, then this confuses the watch.
This said, I am a complete wimp, and steer clear of all other vessels, and try to make my course changes clear and obvious, and well in advance of any potential collision with a large vessel.
This said, I am a complete wimp, and steer clear of all other vessels, and try to make my course changes clear and obvious, and well in advance of any potential collision with a large vessel.
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+1
Me too.
"What happened to your boat?".
"I was the stand on vessel to a 90m ferry painted red and white".
It doesn't sound good, how ever many times you repeat it.
benjenbav
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I would be very wary about the prospect of persuading a vessel that spends all day every day crossing a narrow stretch of water from point A to point B and back again to change its course just because a plastic leisure craft happened to be in between said points A and B.
Firefly625
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Glad I'm not on my own then! :encouragement:
Offshore57
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Do we know if there was anything mechanically wrong with the boat that might have prevented it taking avoiding action ?
bedouin
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I agree with a couple of caveats.
a) The rules are only well defined when only 2 vessels are involved. As soon there are more than that then you need to use judgement as to how they might influence the other vessel.
b) In either case the rules says that both parties have a duty to avoid collision. It is very hard to have a collision without some fault on both sides (unless one is anchored/not under command etc)
Firefly625
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that's the logical explanation... but after the collision it did make its own way to Cowes (according to the report)
benjenbav
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That would be the ultimate in 'percussive maintenance' - just needing a light tap from a 10,000 tonne object to get it going again.
Firefly625
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lol... yes the ultimate push start..!
burgundyben
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If as it says on the report that it happened near Calshot then likely the ferry would have been in the area marked on the chart where a bylaw gives commercial vessels right of way.
