Another Chinese copy for sale...

[dartmoor]

This does make a mockery of the current 2006 Regs:
Just listed on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Stroke-...at_Engines_EngineParts_SM&hash=item3385cc3521

Looks like a bad copy of Tohatsu 3.5.

 

[bikerbill]

This does make a mockery of the current 2006 Regs:
Just listed on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Stroke-...at_Engines_EngineParts_SM&hash=item3385cc3521

Looks like a bad copy of Tohatsu 3.5.

Would not touch it with a barge pole, had many owners of chinese motorbikes asking me to repair them. I thought 2 strokes were banned in this country.

 

[sailorman]

Would not touch it with a barge pole, had many owners of chinese motorbikes asking me to repair them. I thought 2 strokes were banned in this country.

only banned for leisure use

 

[VicS]

Would not touch it with a barge pole, had many owners of chinese motorbikes asking me to repair them. I thought 2 strokes were banned in this country.

Not actually banned. "Outlawed" for recreational use as a result of not complying with emission requirements.

There are in fact ( large) 2 strokes which do comply and are legal for the recreational market. They are not carburettor engines running on a 25:1 fuel mix though.

 

[bikerbill]

That's why the powers that be banned moto gp for 2 strokes

 

[clyst]

2T. Outboards are not banned nor outlawed even for recreational use . it is however illegal to sell/buy a new 2T O/B for recreational use .

 

[sailorman]

2T. Outboards are not banned nor outlawed even for recreational use . it is however illegal to sell/buy a new 2T O/B for recreational use .

I knew what i meant in relation the the ebay ad, just failed to type it

 

[VicS]

2T. Outboards are not banned nor outlawed even for recreational use . it is however illegal to sell/buy a new 2T O/B for recreational use .

It is not even illegal to buy/sell a new 2T outboard for recreational use if it complies with the emission regulations.

Mercury / Mariner Optimax engines and Evinrude E-TEC engines are 2T and legal.

 

[prv]

it is however illegal to sell/buy a new 2T O/B for recreational use .

To buy, or just to sell?

For what it's worth, if and when I need to replace my little Suzuki, I think I will be visiting Mr Mainbrayce on Alderney with his full range of Tohatsu 2-strokes.

Pete

 

[sailorman]

It is not even illegal to buy/sell a new 2T outboard for recreational use if it complies with the emission regulations.

Mercury / Mariner Optimax engines and Evinrude E-TEC engines are 2T and legal.

So why are all there 4 strokes being sold, heavy, complicated,expensive servicing

 

[Fire99]

So why are all there 4 strokes being sold, heavy, complicated,expensive servicing

The likes of the Evinrude E-TEC has a very complicated ecu / fuel system to get around emissions. I'd also wager many people know little about them.

 

[prv]

So why are all there 4 strokes being sold, heavy, complicated,expensive servicing

The legal 2-strokes are all big engines for full-size RIBs etc. They probably have a better power to weight ratio, but otherwise I'm not sure there's much to compare in most of those categories.

In yacht tender sizes, it's four-stroke or nothing (or China or Alderney )

Pete

 

[bikerbill]

I've been buying old 2 strokes from the likes of gumtree, repairing them and selling them on. Am I breaking the rules?

 

[prv]

I've been buying old 2 strokes from the likes of gumtree, repairing them and selling them on. Am I breaking the rules?

Don't think so. It's about selling brand-new ones.

Pete

 

[2nd_apprentice]

AFAIK you can also sell NOS ones as long as they've been imported before these regulations came into effect.

 

[VicS]

So why are all there 4 strokes being sold, heavy, complicated,expensive servicing

Cos people think 2 strokes are banned.


Not even so sure that Evinrude now offer any four strokes except for 15 hp and smaller. I think all the larger ones are E-TECs

 

[saltylegs]

I think the E-TECs have an ECU so need computer and special software to repair/setup properly (added expense)

As for the China made knock offs 25:1 that's sounding more like a Seagull

 

[JumbleDuck]

It is not even illegal to buy/sell a new 2T outboard for recreational use if it complies with the emission regulations.

Similarly, cars don't have to have catalytic converters as long as they can find another way of meeting emissions requirements.

 

[VicS]

Er-hem. Not banned from use, just from import or new sale. That's why I can't buy a 100:1 Yamaha but can continue to run my 10:1 Seagull.

Yes banned for sale new for recreational use. From Jan 2007 IIRC. Unless imported into the Eu prior to that date

 

[VicS]

Similarly, cars don't have to have catalytic converters as long as they can find another way of meeting emissions requirements.

My car does not have a catalytic converter!