Anchor is fouling mooring strop: ? solutions

[biscuit]

My 30ft boat sits on a mooring. It has a substantial double bow roller.
When the anchor is on the bow roller, it impinges on the mooring strop. There is no anchor locker, so I dismount the anchor and lash it to chocks on the foredeck, but it's a bit of a chore. I have noticed that some neighboring boats with Bruce anchors seem to avoid this problem, as the flukes are low enough to clear the strop, but I'm not keen on Bruce anchors. I am planning to change my CQR for a Spade/Manson/Rocna -type anchor, which may be even worse to move and stow. I guess a bridle would do it, but I would rather use the bow roller and single strop.It's a chore I have got used to, but wonder if anyone else has found a neat solution to this problem?

 

[SHUG]

Rig up a block and tackle (with a jammer block) on the pulpit and attach to the crown of the anchor. Just lift the anchor up to clear of the mooring strop. Simples!!

 

[philip_stevens]

My 30ft boat sits on a mooring. It has a substantial double bow roller.
When the anchor is on the bow roller, it impinges on the mooring strop. There is no anchor locker, so I dismount the anchor and lash it to chocks on the foredeck, but it's a bit of a chore. I have noticed that some neighboring boats with Bruce anchors seem to avoid this problem, as the flukes are low enough to clear the strop, but I'm not keen on Bruce anchors. I am planning to change my CQR for a Spade/Manson/Rocna -type anchor, which may be even worse to move and stow. I guess a bridle would do it, but I would rather use the bow roller and single strop.It's a chore I have got used to, but wonder if anyone else has found a neat solution to this problem?

You could put a short strop on the ring of your CQR and cant it up when not required - as I do. We are on a swinging mooring, and the chain has never got behind the anchor flukes.

Even when on other mooring buoys, and using a rope strop, no problem.

(Excuse the rusted chain, the photo was from five years ago.)

 

[Robin]

We had a CQR on a W33 with a double bow roller and used to tie the plow part sideways with a line from the trip line ring to the starboard side of the pushpit. It sat there on a swinging mooring very happily for many years with the port side roller used for the mooring strop. We had more difficulty on the next boat with a Delta, but by then were in a marina berth so it was only a problem on the few occasions we used a visitor buoy, at which times we would take the strop through a foredeck fairlead, or use a bit of tube as an anti-chafe. We also put a chain through top ring buoys in exposed spots to prevent chafe from the ring, it also stopped damage from the Delta.

 

[Searush]

FWIW I leave my CQR on the foredeck looped around the pulpit, tied in place. It only goes on the bow roller when I am about to anchor. Works well for me.

 

[pugwash94]

I know it is easy to keep the anchor on the bow roller but if you are in anything of a sea it increases pitching so mine always comes back to the anchor locker and on previous boats where I did not have a locker it was always stowed on chocks well back from the bows.

My large number 2 anchor goes in the bilges - amidships and my kedge is in the cockpit locker not the lazarette.

All marginally inconvenient but keeping weight out of the ends improves sailing performance considerably

 

[Lady Campanula]

It's likely to be bad news, at some stage, when your single mooring strop shares the same space with your anchor - as in the example illustrated below.

There's little problem when things are quiet. When it gets 'wild and woolly' - and few of us are around then - heavy pitching can and does snag the strop(s), under load, sawing against the edge of the anchor. Like here...

then...

....several times a minute, for hours. That boat went walkabout soon after the pics were taken.

Here's another, where inadequate anti-chafe and rubbing against the edge of the roller cheeks parted one of two lines - in a steady breeze and ordinary chop - in an afternoon. A neighbour put on the doubled 'white' line.

The insurers all say "Predictable is not insurable." Re-read the recent PBO article on this before the winter gales get going.

 

[biscuit]

Great pics, Lady C. In those conditions, I would fear for an anchor lashed to chocks on the foredeck, let alone on a strop on the pulpit.
As I suspected there is no one foolproof solution : I guess its back to the chocks. I believe that the only proprietary ones are designed for CQRs, and that none are made for Spade/ Manson/ Rocna types?
Thanks to all respondents.

 

[pagoda]

My 30ft boat sits on a mooring. It has a substantial double bow roller.
When the anchor is on the bow roller, it impinges on the mooring strop. There is no anchor locker, so I dismount the anchor and lash it to chocks on the foredeck, but it's a bit of a chore. I have noticed that some neighboring boats with Bruce anchors seem to avoid this problem, as the flukes are low enough to clear the strop, but I'm not keen on Bruce anchors. I am planning to change my CQR for a Spade/Manson/Rocna -type anchor, which may be even worse to move and stow. I guess a bridle would do it, but I would rather use the bow roller and single strop.It's a chore I have got used to, but wonder if anyone else has found a neat solution to this problem?

There are various solutions, but Lady C's photos say it all. It is poor practice to leave an anchor mounted if you are on a swinging mooring. Full Stop.
Weather gets up, rope meets metal... you know the rest.
Our swinging mooring had 1/2" chain from the riser, retained by a pin in the roller fitting, then round a cleat. A bit rusty, but secure. The anchor was OFF while moored. No worries to speak of. That was just south of Oban- you may have a more benign envirionment, but what's convenience against a boat aground??

Graeme