Alternative to Corribee

[Dyflin]

I am thinking about buying a Newbridge Corribee but am a little put off by the lack of a more screened heads (the MK 3 looks a little pokey and no double berth?). I would be most greatful if readers could recommend a suitable alternative within a similar price range (£3000 - £4500 max) for a boat in good condition and no older than about '78.

Many thanks,
Dyflin

 

[charles_reed]

Look for a Seal 22, even cheaper the Leisure, or one of the early Westerlys.

You'll be hard pressed to find a much more seaworthy alternative to the Corribee though.

 

[yachtcharisma]

Sorry, because this isn't what you're asking, but thought I ought to defend the Corribee! I've run a curtain across from one side to the other just in front of the table, ie about where the division comes in the Mark 3, which does provide an element of privacy for someone using a loo in the middle of the V berth. I wouldn't claim its as good as a separate heads compartment, but I don't think you'll find one in that price range...

A curtain there also serves to divide the cabin into two if you've a guest sleeping on the quarter berth.

Just a thought.

Cheers
Patrick

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[Dyflin]

Hi Patrick, I see what you are saying. The problem I have is, during the night if the heads needs to be used but there's somebody asleep "in the pointy end"...?

I don't want to be hauled out of my sleeping bag at 3am because of a call of nature. I'd dearly love to buy a Corribee but must consider just how practicle it will be as an overnighter/weekender.

As a side note, Ellen MacArthur's boat 'Iduna' seems to have a bulkhead in it (pic in YM April 98). Do you know if this is a MK 2 or MK3 boat?

The only other option I came up with is to "build" a thwart double berth in a MK3 boat, do you know the beam length/dimension at this position (just forward of the companion way steps)?

The only other boat I've come across which matches my criteria is an Anderson 22, a bit more expensive and no where near as pretty, but...

Many thanks,
Dyflin

 

[BarryH]

I'm no expert on these things, but I have sailed in a corribee ans am learning to sail proper in a lesire 23. The lesiure seems to be a roomier boat down below.

Yours A. Stinkie

OK, to hell with it. Unbolt it and we'll use it as an anchor!

 

[yachtcharisma]

Dyflin,

The answer is that in practice we don't use the recommended "below the double berth" position for the heads. This all begins to sound a bit graphic, but in detail, we use a bucket. It lives in the cockpit during the night (we have an awning over the boom, too), and if one of us needs to go during the night we either pop out to the cockpit or, if that's a bit public, lift the bucket down to a position just in front of the companionway steps. That means no-one has to be disturbed. The other disadvantage with the recommended heads position in the middle of the V berth is that the headroom just there is rather minimal, and while I don't mind sitting on a bucket, sitting on a bucket with my head bent over to one side is a bit much!!

Your other questions; Iduna, when I saw her at the London boat show, has been quite extensively modified inside. However, I think she started out as an early MarkII boat. But there is, of course, no reason why you shouldn't add a solid bulkhead to a MarkII to make two cabins. But I think it's much nicer to have the greater feeling of space in one cabin.

Not exactly sure where you're planning to put a double berth in a MarkIII. Do you mean an infill to the cabin footwell so that one person sleeps on the side cushions and one person above the footwell? I don't think there's enough length there. There's a "chart table" on the MarkIII at the head of the starboard side cushions isn't there which means you'd be slightly offset to each other?

If you want to know in detail, I'm happy to check the measurements for you at the weekend - Charisma's a MarkII, but I think I can work out where the bulkhead must be. But as a guide, the cabin footwell is *just* long enough for me to sleep in - and I'm only 5'6". I think the footwell extends beyond the MarkIII bulkhead doesn't it? But it is a good place to sleep if it's rolly!

This is beginning to run on a bit, especially since it's supposed to be discussing alternatives to the Corribee, not modifications to one! But they are good boats, and we use ours for both weeks and weekends away without problems. We're just back from a week cruising around Falmouth, with the two of us sleeping on the V berth and our 9 month old sleeping on a mattress on the cabin floor!

Hope you get some good suggestions as to alternatives too. I don't know the Anderson 22 and a quick search on Google didn't seem to come up with any pictures either. Let me know if you want me to make any measurements this weekend?

Cheers
Patrick

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[willtaylor]

I have a Signet 20. Overall dimensions seem much like the Corribee but she has a bit more freeboard and headroom. The toilet problem remains the same. She falls in about the same price range and is quite a seakindly and proper little yacht. She will sleep four but where to put all the gear we need to keep in the quarter berths?

We took out a sea toilet and replaced it with a porta potti. There is scope for a curtain and suffcient headroom. As often as not we use the bucket and chuckit for innocous nocturnal emissions.

Good luck

Will Taylor

 

[Dyflin]

Where can I find out more information about this boat (Signet 20)?

Many thanks for information provided!

 

[Kathryn]

Also worth considering is the Jaguar 21 or the Jaguar 22 both very kindly seaboats. Looks for the fixed keel flavour of the Jaguar 22 if sailing offshore e.g across the channel.

 

[graham]

Anderson 22 has a lifting keel ,4 berths and a seperate toilet behind a bulkhead.

We have had ours about 3 years and would not swap her for any other boat unless moving up to a much larger boat.

3 of them crossed the Atlantic back in the 70 s .Ours is a 1980 ,I think production went on until about 82.

She is easilly managed singlehanded. The keel mechanism works very well. Most have a gimballed spirit stove and a sink built into the cabin step.

Under sail we keep pace with larger boats .Most have road trailers.We keep ours afloat on a swinging mooring.

Have a look at the Anderson 22 owners website.
http:/www.anderson22class.co.uk

Best REgards good sailing, Graham

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[Big-Bang1]

Leisure 23 (Old style or the funky SL). We had a Leisure 23SL, double bunk in the fore with the heads under one side and a bulkhead with proper door on it. Standing headroom in the saloon makes it feel bigger. Table in the saloon drops to make a double and a quarter berth too. I camped on it with our three children my wife and a deranged Jack Russel for a couple of days - snug but not uncomfortable. A boom tent made a world of difference allowing us to use to cockpit for storage, as we found out that sleeping 5 people is OK but all the stuff 5 people bring with them needs to go somewhere!
We also found it handled the rough really well including a trip from Teignmouth to Fowey that was memorable for the huge swell that developed off of Salcombe and we just kept on going, it must have looked good as a Royal Air force sailing club yacht came withing shouting distance to ask if we were OK or if we'd like any assistance (which was nice of them), we politely declined and just plodded on.
Ours had an outboard (Tohatsu 9.8 four stroke) that was more than powerful enough and had lots of benefits but personally I think a small inboard is the way to go.

What ever you get I'm sure you'll enjoy it and there's a pretty good second hand maket for boats in the 20'-25' bracket - so if it doesn't turn out the way you want it to you shouldn't be stuck with it.
Your budget should stretch to a Jaguar 25 if you want a bit more size but that's not going to be a trailer sailor (Don't know if it needs to be trailerable). The Jaguar's seem to be a bit of a Marmite boat (You either love em or loathe them) but from person experiance (friends have one) it's a great boat that feels vast compared to the Leisure 23 that we had and they have covered thousands of trouble free miles on theirs. It also looks modern compared to a lot of boats.

Anyhow, chances are everyone will tell you to buy a different boat - not necessarily because any one boat is better than any other but because we all want slightly different things from our boats.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

What ever you get...

He's probably 3 boats on now. The question is 13 years old.

 

[nathanlee]

I used the heads once on my corribee. Dreadful experience. I subsequently ripped it out, filled the seacock holes, and made use of the extra space. You can "use" a bucket anywhere. IMO, it is far too small for a heads.

 

[Tam Lin]

Is this a candidate for the oldest resurrected thread?

 

[nathanlee]

Is this a candidate for the oldest resurrected thread?

Crikey. I didn't spot that. That's got to be a contender.

 

[Big-Bang1]

Crikey! My bad....

Anyhow - what boat did he get???

 

[AngusMcDoon]

Crikey! My bad....

Anyhow - what boat did he get???

His profile gives details. Click on his username.

 

[Big-Bang1]

No way! He got a Leisure 23 then a Leisure 27...

 

[rptb1]

The Coromandel manages to squeeze a whole heads compartment into a Corribee hull.

Mine's got a plumbed-in Jabsco-a-like in it and is quite usable. You're definitely not going to get thrown off on account of being wedged in quite tightly!

But most of the time it's storage space.