Alcohol Stove Fire

[Graham376]

(1296) Living Through the WORST Case Scenario | EE 75 - YouTube

 

[Stemar]

I saw that too. Yikes!

It got me thinking about how many people won't have gas on board because it's so dangerous, so they have alcohol stoves. Hmm...

 

[PetiteFleur]

Yes - appalling consequences. As long as you have a safe gas installation, correctly installed, then there should be little chance of a serious gas incident. Yes, I know there are instances of serious gas explosions, but how many exactly? I'm quite happy with my gas installation, diy, and I did follow the instructions explicitly. BUT - the 'marine regulator' fitted about 3 yrs ago failed and as an interim measure I refitted the original standard one that came with the boat 15 yrs ago,which still works well. I have bought a new 'marine regulator' but not fitted yet.

 

[doug748]

Sound like a similar thing to this from the Old Seadog:

A good idea to always touch the burner to be sure it's cold, when filling.

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[Stemar]

As long as you have a safe gas installation, correctly installed, then there should be little chance of a serious gas incident. Yes, I know there are instances of serious gas explosions, but how many exactly? I'm quite happy with my gas installation, diy, and I did follow the instructions explicitly.

That applies to so many "dangerous" things. Gas, alcohol, electric - anything that produces enough heat to cook dinner can produce enough heat to cook or otherwise damage a user who doesn't have their brain in gear

 

[dansaskip]

Yes but he did try to refill a HOT stove which had just run out of fuel !

 

[UK-WOOZY]

ergh, never heard of that channel before, but they have all i hate, young/naive, annoying music overlaid, vain

 

[rotrax]

Yes but he did try to refill a HOT stove which had just run out of fuel !

Exactly what my mate Tommy did as a youth.

He was doing the St Vitus Dance. He was on fire but the flames could not be seen in daylight.

He was, however, standing at the edge of Frensham Little pond, so he jumped in.

Farnham Hospital sorted him, but it was a close run thing. They said his heavy pyjamas saved him.

I dont think he has been camping since........................................

 

[Davy_S]

I cannot understand the trend to use - like- every other word, he was like on fire, so was it like being on fire? or was he on fire? she could say much more by using less words!
yours a miserable git.

 

[dunedin]

That’s not worst case ……. didn’t Bob Shelton manage to lose his first Dodo‘s Delight to a fire when refilling his stove? And he was at the time iced up for the winter in some remote spot in Greenland or similar. Presume had to walk back to find nearest other human being (no solent boat start services).
Mind you, in typical Bob S fashion he took it on the chin, replaced the boat and went back there (don’t know if he changed the type of stov, but I think he was open in admitting user error).

 

[RivalRedwing]

reminded me of the Dodo's Delight song...

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[Stemar]

Yes but he did try to refill a HOT stove which had just run out of fuel !

At a guess, because he was halfway through cooking dinner, and didn't have his brain engaged. I can imagine that it isn't hard to do, especially if there's conversation happening and a few drinks involved.

At least with gas, changing a bottle happens away from the heat.

 

[tico]

Friend of mine's wife was badly burned in an alcohol fire on their boat, he escaped 'just' by jumping overboard. As noted earlier the flames couldn't be seen

 

[Bru]

So he tried to refill a hot burner in situ

That's a never ever ever EVER do

No excuses

 

[Stemar]

No, but Sod's law is very clear on such things. There's a saying in process management that every process is perfectly designed to achieve the outcome it achieves. If it's possible to do something wrong to achieve a bad outcome, someone will do it.

If we're honest, nearly all of us will have done things that leave us wondering what happened to the brain. Fortunately, most of us get away with it most of the time.

 

[Sandy]

Sound like a similar thing to this from the Old Seadog:

A really good example why I am not a fan of powder extinguishers - look at the mess!

 

[newtothis]

I cannot understand the trend to use - like- every other word, he was like on fire, so was it like being on fire? or was he on fire? she could say much more by using less words!
yours a miserable git.

Fewer!
Yours,
A pedantic git.

 

[srm]

A really good example why I am not a fan of powder extinguishers - look at the mess!

So what do you recommend?

A powder extinguisher makes one hell of a mess and if ingested by a running engine may cause serious damage. I have also seen diesel fires restart after using a powder extinguisher when the oil soaked into the powder and reignited on the surface.

CO2 extinguishers are clean and if used in the engine space will stop a running engine without damage. However, once the gas disperses the fire is likely to reignite if still hot with fuel available.

Incidentally, my boat insurance policy only covered fire if an automatic powder extinguisher was fitted in the engine space.

 

[Sandy]

So what do you recommend?

Water Mist.

 

[srm]

Water Mist.

Agreed, provided that you have the correct professional equipment and are suitably trained.
As far as I am aware water mist is not normally used on commercial vessels other than the automated systems on the vehicle decks of ferries.
Its unlikely to be available for amateur use on small boats, unless you are aware of recently developed extinguishers that I have missed. Do you have experience of using it?