Aggression on the water

[DAKA]

I've just dropped my daughter off at school and parked over looking the seafront watching Kite Surfers.

Looked ace , fits in a car boot and can be dumped at the back of the shed when not in use and just as I was thinking its a sport for me all hell broke out on the beach with fisty cuffs at dawn

Apparently the kite surfer had been going too close inshore causing an issue for the Anglers beach casting, one of the Anglers was been accused of casting his hooks and weights at the kite surfer as he passed

I decided it wasnt the best time to explain to the Angler that he should have been displaying the correct fishing shapes


What is it with the water that makes so many people so aggressive ?

 

[Kilter]

Angler - kayak - canoe is frequent on rivers and they can be quite violent

 

[oGaryo]

it's not the water Daka, it's simply one person believing their activity is more important than someone else's activity and having the personality to address it with aggresion when they feel the other person(s) are disrupting their enjoyment... happens everywhere, not just the water.

 

[blueglass]

If you think of the water as a playing field with some folks playing football, some walking dogs, others playing cricket, bowls, rugby etc etc all on the same field - conflict is inevitable. Our watery playing field is a bit bigger but the same applies. I think we could all be a bit more tolerant of the other guy and its a shame when it all falls apart. Most of our watery activities are barely compatible with one another but with mutual respect there shouldn't be the issues that are so prevalent.

 

[DAKA]

Angler - kayak - canoe is frequent on rivers and they can be quite violent

Never thought to add canoes , they must feel very vulnerable to attack.

 

[DAKA]

See what you mean about sharing a playing field, it explains why sail/power get on so well on the east coast, far larger playing field with less demand on it.

Poll results look a bit scary at first glance................83% of sailors are aggressive towards mobos










That last bit wasnt meant to be serious

 

[oGaryo]

See what you mean about sharing a playing field, it explains why sail/power get on so well on the east coast, far larger playing field with less demand on it.

Poll results look a bit scary at first glance................83% of sailors are aggressive towards mobos










That last bit wasnt meant to be serious

folk on the beach aren't the only ones going fishing today eh Daka

 

[Seajet]

I find very little 'agro' happens between sailing boat types - like me - and mobo's, it's speedboats or jetski's which came with todays' cornflakes which are the problem, if any.

I do take exception to being in a berth / place next to and downwind of a large mobo if they insist on running engines or generators for long periods in the evening, polluting everyone else with noise and fumes but that seems to be becoming a thing of the past too now shore power is more available.

As I have mentioned before, mobo owners have advanced hugely in consideration and seamanship since I started as a WAFI in the early 1970's...

 

[DAKA]

folk on the beach aren't the only ones going fishing today eh Daka

Indeed not, seajet has decided to cast in too


Seajet,
you will be pleased to know my generator doesnt smoke, its a 4 stroke petrol one that sits nicely on the bathing platform, we can hardly hear it in the cockpit over the stereo and it is completely inaudible when the patio doors are closed




NMAASP

 

[Seajet]

I see, the cork and mallet should stay on standby then ?!

 

[benjenbav]

When I used to race sailboats it made me quite aggressive and I had to take a step back and think about what I was doing. Now I just love everybody out on the water.

 

[Zen Zero]

Swimmers and motor-craft (including jet-skis) seem to be mutually antagonistic, though the aggression seems to be limited to a raised voice and a shook fist on the one side and oblivious ignorance on the other.

 

[longjohnsilver]

How about a box marked "none" which I could have then ticked!!

 

[davidej]

it's not the water Daka, it's simply one person believing their activity is more important than someone else's activity and having the personality to address it with aggresion when they feel the other person(s) are disrupting their enjoyment... happens everywhere, not just the water.

I don't really agree.

I think it is usually thoughtlessness or lack of perception of the need of others rather than a deliberate act. However, the wronged party (me included) can over-react and then to aggro really gets under way - see the many Mobo v Raggie threads here

 

[oGaryo]

I don't really agree.

I think it is usually thoughtlessness or lack of perception of the need of others rather than a deliberate act. However, the wronged party (me included) can over-react and then to aggro really gets under way - see the many Mobo v Raggie threads here

er, not having that, wanna fight???!!!

understand what you're saying and I guess the rules of the road/water may lend our pastime to result in more kafuffle than others but still stands, you look at pretty much any activity and you'll find scope for conflict in varying degrees

 

[l'escargot]

Poll results look a bit scary at first glance................83% of sailors are aggressive towards mobos

You haven't put an option for mobos being aggressive to sailors so you can't compare it to anything.

 

[prv]

How about a box marked "none" which I could have then ticked!!

Me too.

You haven't put an option for mobos being aggressive to sailors so you can't compare it to anything.

Or sailors being aggressive to sailors which was the only thing other than "none" I might have considered (guy getting quite stressed as he failed to handle his too-big boat and collided with my raft-mate and nearly with me, then yelled at all and sundry but mostly his wife).

Pete

 

[DAKA]

You haven't put an option for mobos being aggressive to sailors so you can't compare it to anything.

It would never have occurred to me that anyone would have sought that option
Surely all mobo owners act as friendly gentlemen welcoming their sailing brethren alongside.



So sod off and start your own 8loody thread on the raggie forum

 

[MapisM]

What is it with the water that makes so many people so aggressive ?

"With the water"? You must either be joking, or you've never seen what happens when someone hit just veeeery slightly the bumber of another car while queing in a traffic jam...

 

[l'escargot]

So sod off and start your own 8loody thread on the raggie forum

Only if I can load the questions like you do!