cloud7
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Looking to purchase Sports cruiser with 2 cabins , any advice experiences on S34 or can anyone suggest alternative, thinking of one with twin kad 32s, Is flybridge better value?
Advice on S34 or alternative sports cruiser
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Nautical
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If you are looking for new, look at the new Absolute 39 www.oceannautic.com
bit bigger but very well priced. Twin cabins, twin heads, D4's or D6's, goes like stink. Sold out till the end of the year but a fab boat for the money.
bit bigger but very well priced. Twin cabins, twin heads, D4's or D6's, goes like stink. Sold out till the end of the year but a fab boat for the money.
miket
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Have a friend who purchased 2001 model last year. Absoluteley delighted with it. He opted for 2 x TAMD 41's (not sure about the numbering) 200 hp turbo but no supercharger. He felt the greater simplicity of the 41's won out.
Has done several Channel crossings and very pleased with performance, both speed and seakeeping. His last boat was a Fairey Huntsman 31 so used to excellent seakeeping.
Has done several Channel crossings and very pleased with performance, both speed and seakeeping. His last boat was a Fairey Huntsman 31 so used to excellent seakeeping.
KevB
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Absolute
Crap web site. Hope the boat is better. How much are they?
Crap web site. Hope the boat is better. How much are they?
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
Huh?, thought the site was very flashy indeed, what's wrong with it?
Mine's the 45 and a real head turner (I think so anyway), very well screwed together, three months so far and nothing has broke or fallen off, no teething troubles to talk about. Boat was commissioned, turned the key and off we went. Few niggles with the EVC set up during commssioning but that was down to Volvo dealer not the yard, all fixed now. Interior is up there with the best, joinery is superb, lots of leather and shiney chrome everywhere if a bit of a swine to keep but looks superyacht stuff.
I think the 39 is around £150k with D4's, add another 10K for D6's, looks the biz and with D6's expect about 40 knts (our 45 with D6 350's gets 37.4knts with shiney bottom).
Sea keeping is v. good, well, good enough to get us home in a 7 averaging 22knts, would take a lot more but you'd be bounced all over the shop.
Huh?, thought the site was very flashy indeed, what's wrong with it?
Mine's the 45 and a real head turner (I think so anyway), very well screwed together, three months so far and nothing has broke or fallen off, no teething troubles to talk about. Boat was commissioned, turned the key and off we went. Few niggles with the EVC set up during commssioning but that was down to Volvo dealer not the yard, all fixed now. Interior is up there with the best, joinery is superb, lots of leather and shiney chrome everywhere if a bit of a swine to keep but looks superyacht stuff.
I think the 39 is around £150k with D4's, add another 10K for D6's, looks the biz and with D6's expect about 40 knts (our 45 with D6 350's gets 37.4knts with shiney bottom).
Sea keeping is v. good, well, good enough to get us home in a 7 averaging 22knts, would take a lot more but you'd be bounced all over the shop.
jfm
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Re: Absolute
I too thought the website was rubbish (pictures grainy) but the boats themselves look fab. Great styling ihmo, I agree the 45 is a serious a head turner. Glad to hear they're well screwed together too, nautical. Do you have any pix of yours that you could put up on here please?
I too thought the website was rubbish (pictures grainy) but the boats themselves look fab. Great styling ihmo, I agree the 45 is a serious a head turner. Glad to hear they're well screwed together too, nautical. Do you have any pix of yours that you could put up on here please?
petem
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New or old? Either way, most obvious competitor is Fairline Targa 34 which is more substantially built (compare the weights if you don't believe me).
Targa 34 to be replaced next year and it wouldn't surpise me if S34 was too.
KAD32's are least powerful engine options and will struggle to hit 30 knots. Also old technology. Volvo D4's gotta be the engines to go for.
If you can afford it I'd go for the Sunseeker Portofino 35 or Sealine S38, both of which are far more recent designs. Sealine F34 (fly) also highly acclaimed.
Targa 34 to be replaced next year and it wouldn't surpise me if S34 was too.
KAD32's are least powerful engine options and will struggle to hit 30 knots. Also old technology. Volvo D4's gotta be the engines to go for.
If you can afford it I'd go for the Sunseeker Portofino 35 or Sealine S38, both of which are far more recent designs. Sealine F34 (fly) also highly acclaimed.
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
No probs, here you go, this is my boat at the Dusseldorf show and at home. I will e.mail the distributors about the 'graininess' of the pictires on the site. They are very switched on people and I am sure they would like some feed back. I think the site only went up last week, I am on a laptop so the pictures are small.
No probs, here you go, this is my boat at the Dusseldorf show and at home. I will e.mail the distributors about the 'graininess' of the pictires on the site. They are very switched on people and I am sure they would like some feed back. I think the site only went up last week, I am on a laptop so the pictures are small.
jfm
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Re: Absolute
Nice pics. I think it's a really good looking boat. You should move her to the Med though! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
On the dash, the Raymarine gear should be installed in wedge shaped boxes or wedge shaped divots, to make the screens more vertical
Nice pics. I think it's a really good looking boat. You should move her to the Med though! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
On the dash, the Raymarine gear should be installed in wedge shaped boxes or wedge shaped divots, to make the screens more vertical
petem
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Re: Absolute
Is it just me or are all boats starting to look the same? This could be a new Sunseeker, Fairline, Azimut, Atlantis, Princess, etc.
Is it just me or are all boats starting to look the same? This could be a new Sunseeker, Fairline, Azimut, Atlantis, Princess, etc.
DPH
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Re: Absolute
Website is written in flash, the whole site resizes to fill the size of the window your browser is in. Try making your browser smaller and the site looks better!
Pretty pointless having the site resize to fit a bigger window if you ask me when it looks worse!
Got to say love the look of the boat though. Top marks for the master cabin having the berth on a diagnol.
Only thing I don't like with this sort layout is you only get a forward seat oposite the helm, (Don't know if you have a single or a double) On the port side you get a sideways seat.
I've seen this on a lot of new boats recently, Sessa 42, Altlantis 42+47. I think builders are doing this so you get lots of headroom walking from the saloon to the rear cabin. Would much rather have seats facing forward to make for more comfortable longer trips and sacrifice the headroom below. Suspose it's not so imprevsive at a boat show but in my opinion far more pratical.
Website is written in flash, the whole site resizes to fill the size of the window your browser is in. Try making your browser smaller and the site looks better!
Pretty pointless having the site resize to fit a bigger window if you ask me when it looks worse!
Got to say love the look of the boat though. Top marks for the master cabin having the berth on a diagnol.
Only thing I don't like with this sort layout is you only get a forward seat oposite the helm, (Don't know if you have a single or a double) On the port side you get a sideways seat.
I've seen this on a lot of new boats recently, Sessa 42, Altlantis 42+47. I think builders are doing this so you get lots of headroom walking from the saloon to the rear cabin. Would much rather have seats facing forward to make for more comfortable longer trips and sacrifice the headroom below. Suspose it's not so imprevsive at a boat show but in my opinion far more pratical.
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
I agree and I am scratching my head to design an insert to angle the screen towards a more vertical position. Have to say that its not to much of a problem the screen is quite bright but we havnt had much bright sunlight yet.
She would look the doofers down the med and we did think about going for a hard top boat but the absolute 45 is the biggest boat you can get with outdrives and we wanted the economy of o/d's and the vast amount of space it offers in this size of craft. The interior is voluminous with two full sized double cabins both with ensuites and seperate showers and a saloon that comfortably seats six with plenty of space over. The equivilant sized others all have inboards and that takes up a big chunck of space plus you need alot more horsepower to get the same performance. The canvas is acutually a very good fit and quite cosy when its up, blimely I sound like a sales man but I suppose everyone has a soft spot for their own boat.
I agree and I am scratching my head to design an insert to angle the screen towards a more vertical position. Have to say that its not to much of a problem the screen is quite bright but we havnt had much bright sunlight yet.
She would look the doofers down the med and we did think about going for a hard top boat but the absolute 45 is the biggest boat you can get with outdrives and we wanted the economy of o/d's and the vast amount of space it offers in this size of craft. The interior is voluminous with two full sized double cabins both with ensuites and seperate showers and a saloon that comfortably seats six with plenty of space over. The equivilant sized others all have inboards and that takes up a big chunck of space plus you need alot more horsepower to get the same performance. The canvas is acutually a very good fit and quite cosy when its up, blimely I sound like a sales man but I suppose everyone has a soft spot for their own boat.
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
I would agree with that, however its also nice to be able to have full headroom in the after cabin especially when you are getting dressed or drying off after a shower. Its a right pain having to stoop all the time. We actually use the aft cabin as the master as it has more floor space and bigger hanging lockers. It would be great if they could design forward facing seats port side and full headroom in the aft cabin as well but I suppose that is trying to squash to much out of the available space.
I would agree with that, however its also nice to be able to have full headroom in the after cabin especially when you are getting dressed or drying off after a shower. Its a right pain having to stoop all the time. We actually use the aft cabin as the master as it has more floor space and bigger hanging lockers. It would be great if they could design forward facing seats port side and full headroom in the aft cabin as well but I suppose that is trying to squash to much out of the available space.
jfm
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Re: Absolute
If you get the geometry right you can plant the screen in a wedge box atop the dashboard and yet still see the gauges behind. You can actully do this with several rows - see pic below of tcm's Leopard. The box can easily be made in GRP.
If you get the geometry right you can plant the screen in a wedge box atop the dashboard and yet still see the gauges behind. You can actully do this with several rows - see pic below of tcm's Leopard. The box can easily be made in GRP.
jfm
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Boat style
Yup you are right. But this boat, even though not hugely different from any others, still looks good imho
imho the next wave of differentiation will be interiors not exteriors. Just look at the Azi 68s and 86s, Ferretti 731, Azimut 75 fly, frexample. Fabulous stuff, compared with tedious gloss dross from Fairline, Princess, et al. Sunseeker are just starting doing some nice interiors now, eg the hattan 66 (matt cherry)and the pred 82 (matt walnut, yum) at LIBS this year
Yup you are right. But this boat, even though not hugely different from any others, still looks good imho
imho the next wave of differentiation will be interiors not exteriors. Just look at the Azi 68s and 86s, Ferretti 731, Azimut 75 fly, frexample. Fabulous stuff, compared with tedious gloss dross from Fairline, Princess, et al. Sunseeker are just starting doing some nice interiors now, eg the hattan 66 (matt cherry)and the pred 82 (matt walnut, yum) at LIBS this year
MapisM
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In the last of your pics...
...was the boat still getting on plane, or already at cruising speed?
It gave me the impression of being sit on his aft, a little bit.
Looks really nice, though.
...was the boat still getting on plane, or already at cruising speed?
It gave me the impression of being sit on his aft, a little bit.
Looks really nice, though.
DPH
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Re: Absolute
I hadn't thought of that, I suppose if you have a shower in the aft cabin then you need the standing room.
Apart from that I lovve the rest of the boat - biggest outdrives possible, big tender garage, great finish and dead sexy.
I hadn't thought of that, I suppose if you have a shower in the aft cabin then you need the standing room.
Apart from that I lovve the rest of the boat - biggest outdrives possible, big tender garage, great finish and dead sexy.
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
Thanks for that, gives me some ideas. Have a really good grp man that can make real sexy stuff in Carbon Fibre so will show him these pics. Ta v much
Thanks for that, gives me some ideas. Have a really good grp man that can make real sexy stuff in Carbon Fibre so will show him these pics. Ta v much
Nautical
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Re: In the last of your pics...
We were just pratting about on our first outing so think I had just given it the berries so not quite at planing attitude. She sits fairly level at around 28knts with about a ten degree bow up, visability is surprisingly good despite rake of screen and length of foredeck up front. Visability out the back is not so hot when getting back on the pontoon but unlike hard top boats you can just roll up the aft canvas and the whole blunt end is viewable right down to the water line which makes berthing stern to a doddle.
We were just pratting about on our first outing so think I had just given it the berries so not quite at planing attitude. She sits fairly level at around 28knts with about a ten degree bow up, visability is surprisingly good despite rake of screen and length of foredeck up front. Visability out the back is not so hot when getting back on the pontoon but unlike hard top boats you can just roll up the aft canvas and the whole blunt end is viewable right down to the water line which makes berthing stern to a doddle.
Nautical
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Re: Absolute
Cheers for that, feel dead chuffed now, had a real gut wrenching time about going for a new make and could'nt decide whether to go for one of the regulars or something different. In the end the £60k difference in the price swung it and the fact they are a small builder (with a lot of money behind them) so has a rarity value and the few second hand ones available around the med seem to be fetching almost retail so if we decide to trade up to the new 55 coming out later next year we could realise most of our investment back again. Have to say though that it would take alot to persude us to go bigger with the extra running costs, I think the 55 will be with twin 600hp inboards so a big hike in fuel bills. There was rumour that they might offer it with the IPS 600 system which is in later stages of development but I think I would wait and see how the system pans out with other builders first.
Cheers for that, feel dead chuffed now, had a real gut wrenching time about going for a new make and could'nt decide whether to go for one of the regulars or something different. In the end the £60k difference in the price swung it and the fact they are a small builder (with a lot of money behind them) so has a rarity value and the few second hand ones available around the med seem to be fetching almost retail so if we decide to trade up to the new 55 coming out later next year we could realise most of our investment back again. Have to say though that it would take alot to persude us to go bigger with the extra running costs, I think the 55 will be with twin 600hp inboards so a big hike in fuel bills. There was rumour that they might offer it with the IPS 600 system which is in later stages of development but I think I would wait and see how the system pans out with other builders first.