Adjusting Seastar SL-3 throttle control

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Hello again,

My boat has a Seastar SL-3 throttle control - photos below.

The throttle is the red cable at the bottom, the gear cable is the brown one to the left (to aft).

Engaging either forward or reverse pulls on the throttle cable (forwards and up in forward gear, backwards and up in reverse), but forwards pushes the core of the gear cable, and it is pulled on for reverse.

Am I right in assuming that this is what is generically called a "morse" control? Having both gear and throttle on the same single lever?

I think the same unit is also sold under the Teleflex brand, and one supplier describes it as a "Teleflex Morse SL-3 Control" for example.

The survey says, "Throttle already comes in when one is shifting the gear box, adjust/repair" and, indeed, the boat seems to pull forward slightly when the lever is centred.

I thought that fixing this would be as simple as adjusting a cable but, finding two of them on the mechanism, I'm a little confused and full of self-doubt.

I think the culprit must be the gear lever, because too much tension on the throttle cable alone wouldn't do this - it couldn't drive the boat forwards if the gearbox wasn't engaged.

Also, at the dock (can't remember about under sail) the engine takes several seconds of turning over before starting - it's a bit alarming waiting so long for it to do so, in fact. I think this symptom is also consistent with the gearbox being engaged while the lever is in "neutral", as it would mean that the starter motor is labouring against the weight and friction of the prop; it starts eventually once enough momentum is achieved.

It's not clear to me how to determine that the gearbox actuator arm is in the neutral position, so as to adjust the gearbox cable.

The action of the lever seems very smooth, but jiggling both cables yesterday I thought to replace the gearbox cable. I can't now say why I came to that conclusion - I guess it just felt wrong in some way.

The engine is a Nanni (Kubota?) 4150HE, the gearbox a Hürth HBW100.

I hope this makes sense, and I appreciate any thoughts you may have on the subject.



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Hello again,

My boat has a Seastar SL-3 throttle control - photos below.

The throttle is the red cable at the bottom, the gear cable is the brown one to the left (to aft).

Engaging either forward or reverse pulls on the throttle cable (forwards and up in forward gear, backwards and up in reverse), but forwards pushes the core of the gear cable, and it is pulled on for reverse.

Am I right in assuming that this is what is generically called a "morse" control? Having both gear and throttle on the same single lever?

I think the same unit is also sold under the Teleflex brand, and one supplier describes it as a "Teleflex Morse SL-3 Control" for example.

The survey says, "Throttle already comes in when one is shifting the gear box, adjust/repair" and, indeed, the boat seems to pull forward slightly when the lever is centred.

I thought that fixing this would be as simple as adjusting a cable but, finding two of them on the mechanism, I'm a little confused and full of self-doubt.

I think the culprit must be the gear lever, because too much tension on the throttle cable alone wouldn't do this - it couldn't drive the boat forwards if the gearbox wasn't engaged.

Also, at the dock (can't remember about under sail) the engine takes several seconds of turning over before starting - it's a bit alarming waiting so long for it to do so, in fact. I think this symptom is also consistent with the gearbox being engaged while the lever is in "neutral", as it would mean that the starter motor is labouring against the weight and friction of the prop; it starts eventually once enough momentum is achieved.

It's not clear to me how to determine that the gearbox actuator arm is in the neutral position, so as to adjust the gearbox cable.

The action of the lever seems very smooth, but jiggling both cables yesterday I thought to replace the gearbox cable. I can't now say why I came to that conclusion - I guess it just felt wrong in some way.

The engine is a Nanni (Kubota?) 4150HE, the gearbox a Hürth HBW100.

I hope this makes sense, and I appreciate any thoughts you may have on the subject.



UZE7Siq.jpg


hPi4ZlV.jpg

The control was originally produced by Morse Controls who went through several incarnations and name changes as you suggest
From the look of the throttle cable where it’s outer is clamped it is damaged and should be replaced you may also require to replace some of the mounting kit
The gear selector arm should be horizontal in neutral as per photo
When you move the hand lever it should fully engage the selected gear and then open the throttle there is a lost motion device in the control which allows the gear cable mounting to initially move thus not immediately engaging gear
If you look here www.seastarsolutions.com/...controls-cables/controls.. you will find better setting instructions than I can give it’s just a matter of ticking the right option boxes
Their comment about trying it their way makes sense

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Hello,

You accidentally commented in my thread, with no reply but quoting my whole post (inc pics).

I'd love any advice you can give, but assuming this was just an accidental misclick, is there any chance you could delete your reply please, just to keep the thread clean?

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...21#post6820820

Thanks for your time,

Andy.
Read more at http://www.ybw.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=1023819#WDULmlvvEE4uztQS.99

Look between the photos before mounting high horse please this forum is getting so cranky your actually lucky to get an answer to such a long post!
 
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