Absolute v Sessa

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The search for a new boat has widened, from Absolute 47 to now include the Cessa c46 / 48
Sessa seems to be ahead in the master cabin & scissor berths up front, proper galley upstairs and a few other little bits, Absolute final finish is however better ?
What do the esteemed panel think, would want to put gyro on either so need the space for that.
 
Chris H said:
I'm looking at these, any info.......Sessa is bit too new for me !
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Not anything specific from me although I guess PYB might have some thoughts. I have looked at a Pershing 46 in the past and loved the styling as well as the separate aft cabin which I think is something unique in this class
 
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Not anything specific from me although I guess PYB might have some thoughts. I have looked at a Pershing 46 in the past and loved the styling as well as the separate aft cabin which I think is something unique in this class
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I like the idea of the aft cabin and generally they have big F off engines, but the styling hasn't changed in years and all sizes look the same....
 
Chris H said:
I like the idea of the aft cabin and generally they have big F off engines, but the styling hasn't changed in years and all sizes look the same....
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Pershing 46 is the 43 (2001 - 4 production) hull extended with the added bonus of larger cockpit and the aft cabin.
The CoG for this has moved a bit forward. It is still a good boat although the two cabin 43 is still a bit better and a dryer ride.
Though this should not be a big concern since you have the hard top and just put on the wipers.

If you can stretch a bit the budget and want a Pershing I would try to go for a 50 with shafts (same engines as both have Man R6 800hp).
Pershing 46 is in reality a 50 feet boat LoA while 50 is 51.9 ft.

At the time Pershing released the 46 in order to compete with the Rizzardi 45 Incredible which won over the Italian market due to its three cabin layout.
 
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Chris H said:
I like the idea of the aft cabin and generally they have big F off engines, but the styling hasn't changed in years and all sizes look the same....
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Sounds like Itama :encouragement:
Seriously they Itama - only do opens ,but Pershing pick up the HT trade .
Proper engine position in the middle no compromise on seaworthy ness .
Cabins either side of the "F -off " engine room means you don,t here each couples burps ,n farts as well as other noises :)
As PYB says there's a P50 either Arnesons or simple shaft .Shaft being my chiose -less maintenance hassle .
Also the MAN 6 cylinder 13 L is a peach ,it's what's in my boat too .
 
Portofino said:
Sounds like Itama :encouragement:
Seriously they Itama - only do opens ,but Pershing pick up the HT trade .
Proper engine position in the middle no compromise on seaworthy ness .
Cabins either side of the "F -off " engine room means you don,t here each couples burps ,n farts as well as other noises :)
As PYB says there's a P50 either Arnesons or simple shaft .Shaft being my chiose -less maintenance hassle .
Also the MAN 6 cylinder 13 L is a peach ,it's what's in my boat too .
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I'll have a look and see if there is a Pershing about to look at next week.
 
powerskipper said:
both nice boats , does it have to be a sport cruiser, if not look at a Sealine F 46/47 loads of room, and Prestige range. the Sealine 42 think sports if a massive boat for the money.
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Honestly both Sealine and Prestige are a mile away from the construction standards a Pershing offers.
With Sessa and Absolute things are closer as both are mass production builders...
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Honestly both Sealine and Prestige are a mile away from the construction standards a Pershing offers.
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Seconded, chalk and cheese spring to mind.
Btw, on top of your P50 suggestion, I would throw in also the Sarnico 50HT, which is even better built, imho.
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Off course Sarnico 50 HT is superbly build, and goes ahead to a Pershing in every area. If you want an aft cabin and a hard top that would be my choice.
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They seem few and far between, not sold on the looks, although I've only seen pictures of them.
What makes them better than say a princess or Sunseeker, from a design point they seem 10 years behind.
 
Chris H said:
They seem few and far between, not sold on the looks, although I've only seen pictures of them.
What makes them better than say a princess or Sunseeker, from a design point they seem 10 years behind.
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Think Ford Focus ST and Maserati:D
 
I can't see how Pershing have such a good reputation. I can only comment on the Pershing 46 as have worked on several of them and found majour design faults. When traveling at a normal cruising speed the top of the screen is directly in your line of vision (for the average height person) and the side of the roof opening hits your head. The only way to see where you are going is to stand on the left side of the helm seat and steer with your right foot. We had to fit Humphree trim tabs to fix this.

The shaft seals as on most Italian boats are a similar design to deep sea seals and constantly drip when underway. We fitted tides Marine seals to stop this but found the shafts were very pitted so not sure how long the seals will last.

The bow is very curved so laying on bow cushions is not easy with out rolling off.

Important items are poorly located like the aircon sea water pump, batteries and don't even think about cleaning the forward shower sump box.

There is no hot water storage tank so if you want a warm shower after a swim you need to start the generator.

Also two friends often cruise together one with a Pershing 46 and the other with a Targa 47 they travel the same distances at the same speeds but the owner of the Pershing always has to pay much more at every fuel stop.

Sessa or absolute are both ok some good bits and some bad bits.
 
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