Saddletramp
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Toying with the idea of buying a boat in NZ for a year. You seem to get a lot more boat for your money. Any one done this? Are there any hidden costs, taxes etc I need to know about?
A year in NZ
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Bajansailor
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Mate of mine bought a very fine wee 24' S & S sloop when he was in Kiwiland a few years ago.
Paperwork was very straightforward - ie almost non-existent. Boat had never been registered - all Matt had for it was a Bill of Sale.
He liked this S & S so much that he sailed her home..... to Brittany, singlehanded. Stopped off here on the way to say hello.
And to (finally) register her properly, as Matt was getting nuff hassles from crats along the way re his lack of paper work designed to keep crats happy.
So Natine now sports a fine Bajan ensign on her stern.....
Paperwork was very straightforward - ie almost non-existent. Boat had never been registered - all Matt had for it was a Bill of Sale.
He liked this S & S so much that he sailed her home..... to Brittany, singlehanded. Stopped off here on the way to say hello.
And to (finally) register her properly, as Matt was getting nuff hassles from crats along the way re his lack of paper work designed to keep crats happy.
So Natine now sports a fine Bajan ensign on her stern.....
Onyva
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They certainly make good strong sailing boats over there Mac, but have you considered the US, or anywhere else that takes US$ for that matter (given the ex rates)?
roly_voya
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If you are thinking of sailing back at the end of the year there are some pretty stict regs about what you need to have in way of safety gear and presumably as a NZ boat you will need to comply. Mostly stuff you would probably want anyway (epirb SSB etc) but expensive
Saddletramp
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Thanks for the responses chaps. The prices seem v good in NZ and it would offer something for the non- sailing family. Was not planning to sail back but you never know. Still early days in planning but getting a good response so far. Will post more as plans progress
GMac
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If you are thinking of sailing back at the end of the year there are some pretty stict regs about what you need to have in way of safety gear and presumably as a NZ boat you will need to comply. Mostly stuff you would probably want anyway (epirb SSB etc) but expensive
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Just don't make it a NZ Registered Ship and you can get away with less. Mind you the requirements for NZ Registered vessels leaving are nothing prudent seamanship says you wouldn't take anyway. The authorities just check everything works well and the driver knows how to find out which way to point it.
NZ does spent an awful lot of money rescuing non NZ boats so is just trying to make sure their own lot doesn't add to the list.
Technically the NZ authorities do have the power to stop offshore boats leaving no matter where they come from but common sense is used widely. If someone gets to NZ they have already demonstrated they can do at less 1000 miles so doing another 1000 back again should be fine.
They have stopped a couple though due to very good safety reasons i.e they were a rescue just waiting to happen.
If you are thinking of sailing back at the end of the year there are some pretty stict regs about what you need to have in way of safety gear and presumably as a NZ boat you will need to comply. Mostly stuff you would probably want anyway (epirb SSB etc) but expensive
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Just don't make it a NZ Registered Ship and you can get away with less. Mind you the requirements for NZ Registered vessels leaving are nothing prudent seamanship says you wouldn't take anyway. The authorities just check everything works well and the driver knows how to find out which way to point it.
NZ does spent an awful lot of money rescuing non NZ boats so is just trying to make sure their own lot doesn't add to the list.
Technically the NZ authorities do have the power to stop offshore boats leaving no matter where they come from but common sense is used widely. If someone gets to NZ they have already demonstrated they can do at less 1000 miles so doing another 1000 back again should be fine.
They have stopped a couple though due to very good safety reasons i.e they were a rescue just waiting to happen.
Troutbridge
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I think I'm correct in saying that you can only get a visa for 6 months in NZ (depending on nationality). People with property over there tell me they have a couple of weeks 'holiday' each year to reset the visa clock, but not sure if this is 'legal' or not. Worth checking.
GMac
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I think I'm correct in saying that you can only get a visa for 6 months in NZ (depending on nationality). People with property over there tell me they have a couple of weeks 'holiday' each year to reset the visa clock, but not sure if this is 'legal' or not. Worth checking.
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I don't know about 'visas' which is a people thing I think. I do know visiting boats can get upto 12 months of TIE (temp Import exemption). Yes it is common for boats to do a trip up to the islands and back for a clock re-set. It was even quietly 'suggested' to a mate of mine by a Customs Officer as a way. How nice is that.
As for people Visas I think some countries do have better/longer access than others. Pop over to Sydney (3hr jet plane ride) for a weekend and clock re-set maybe.
Mind you, all this bloody stupid silly war of terror crap may change things. We even have a 'security zone' around the commercial wharfs now. The local ignore zones like this so we would suspect the French Government bombers will as well /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Something here may answer the question.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/nzopportunities/live/
I think I'm correct in saying that you can only get a visa for 6 months in NZ (depending on nationality). People with property over there tell me they have a couple of weeks 'holiday' each year to reset the visa clock, but not sure if this is 'legal' or not. Worth checking.
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I don't know about 'visas' which is a people thing I think. I do know visiting boats can get upto 12 months of TIE (temp Import exemption). Yes it is common for boats to do a trip up to the islands and back for a clock re-set. It was even quietly 'suggested' to a mate of mine by a Customs Officer as a way. How nice is that.
As for people Visas I think some countries do have better/longer access than others. Pop over to Sydney (3hr jet plane ride) for a weekend and clock re-set maybe.
Mind you, all this bloody stupid silly war of terror crap may change things. We even have a 'security zone' around the commercial wharfs now. The local ignore zones like this so we would suspect the French Government bombers will as well /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Something here may answer the question.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/nzopportunities/live/
CelebrityScandel
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I think I'm correct in saying that you can only get a visa for 6 months in NZ (depending on nationality). People with property over there tell me they have a couple of weeks 'holiday' each year to reset the visa clock, but not sure if this is 'legal' or not. Worth checking.
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I can say from recent experience that visitors permits are issued in NZ for up to 9 months but a later application can extend that up to 12 months for bona fide visitors.
There may be less formally stated extensions again for ordinary visitors if for good reason but not had to explore that. In the case of yachts and crew though, having repairs done or avoiding the Western Pacific hurricane season suffice we were told to be classifed as a special visitor with longer extensions possible.
Your friends probably ran into the requirement of most countries that using up the maximum permit time precludes a return visit within some period after ie once the maximum time has been burnt up one cannot just leave and then return to start the clock again. Would assume that is so in NZ. We found the NZ Immigration Service website that GMac linked to very helpful and with full explanations so am sure one would find those details on there.
I think I'm correct in saying that you can only get a visa for 6 months in NZ (depending on nationality). People with property over there tell me they have a couple of weeks 'holiday' each year to reset the visa clock, but not sure if this is 'legal' or not. Worth checking.
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I can say from recent experience that visitors permits are issued in NZ for up to 9 months but a later application can extend that up to 12 months for bona fide visitors.
There may be less formally stated extensions again for ordinary visitors if for good reason but not had to explore that. In the case of yachts and crew though, having repairs done or avoiding the Western Pacific hurricane season suffice we were told to be classifed as a special visitor with longer extensions possible.
Your friends probably ran into the requirement of most countries that using up the maximum permit time precludes a return visit within some period after ie once the maximum time has been burnt up one cannot just leave and then return to start the clock again. Would assume that is so in NZ. We found the NZ Immigration Service website that GMac linked to very helpful and with full explanations so am sure one would find those details on there.