A trailer sailer to fit 20ft container?

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Dear Yacthing and Boat World,

Looking to get a small sailing boat over to the Ascension island on the MOD boat. Have looked at a larger one and it would cost a small fortune so will need to settle for a small daysailer/trailer sailor instead to go in a container, to sail when conditions allow.

Maximum dimensions to get in the container are:

2.28m tall
2.33m beam
5.85m Long

Any ideas would be gladly received.
 
would you consider shipping out a complete kit, and have the pleasure of building it out there and then sailing ? Is there an 'off' season for sailing out there ? Depends on your posting dates, but you could build in the winter, ready for the summer.

Could be ply or even steel (pre-cut)

http://jordanboats.co.uk/JB/

http://www.dixdesign.com/kits.htm


Using a kit, you could end up with a boat large enought o sail back to the UK...... :)


You could consider a catamaran, or a proa, as well ?
 
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It's going to LOA that's going to be your main restriction. I was goind to suggest a Hunter 19, but it will have to be sub 19 foot to fit inside a standard 20ft container, especially if you'll have to get the mast in there as well.
 
I think a Squib should fit in those dimensions. They don't come much tougher, they're cheap and parts are easy to get.

Can the boat go in the container on it's own or does it need to be on a trailer? A trailer might push it over the maximum height...

Edit - as rudolph_hart points out - if the mast has to fit as well then the squib mast would be too long. Something with a gunter or gaff rig might work though.
 
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A NZ yacht designer, I think Young, designed a 28' yacht with lifting keel that fitted into a 20' container. Bow up in one corner, transom down in the other. Not sure what happened to the mast. It raced competitively, very. The yacht I knew was Gambit, based in HK (and I think owned, at the time, by the designers son). I know of one other yacht of the same design. Young is still designing yachts to fit in containers as have others. Bigger yachts, that fit in 40' boxes, tend to be a bit narrow in the beam but I recall reading of an American yacht - but cannot recall what the name/model was.

But you have not specified a budget.

Jonathan
 
I'll second the Hunter 19 / Europa ( the later version with a slightly more spacious deck moulding ).

Managed the North Atlantic well - see the book ' Very Willing Griffin ' about David Blagden taking his only slightly modified 19 ' Willing Griffin ' in the 1972 OSTAR.

You won't be in luxury but the boat can probably get you through anything and is good fun to sail in the meantime.

The mast would have to be separate, I wouldn't think too much hassle to carry on a ship ?

Otherwise as mentioned a Gunter rig might be the answer, though it would be a shame to lose the boats' performance to windward.
 
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A trailer might push it over the maximum height...

Edit - as rudolph_hart points out - if the mast has to fit as well then the squib mast would be too long. Something with a gunter or gaff rig might work though.

Has a squib not external ballast so you could just take the keel off?

If the mast has to fit two but the tools and sheefing cut it in half and reconstruct down there?

This goes for many boats not just the Squib
 
Who would fancy sailing a Drascombe - I know about the Pacific trip -, Eagle ( Skipper 17 ) or even a Manta 19 around Ascension Island ?!

Incidentally I'm just reading a book which mentions Ascension as having one of the worlds' largest colonies of Great White sharks; I might go for a 60' steel boat shipped over in 3 containers !
 
(My) Manta mast is about 6.3m - a bit of a tight fit, diagonally. How about a Leisure 17 - cheap, tough, proven sailing ability - crossed the atlantic sometime in the distant past, and one was recently sailed from Turkey to the UK!

John
 
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